Debate between Christian Biophysicist and Atheist Philosopher - Part 2 of 3

Debate between Christian biophysicist Cees Dekker and atheist philosopher Herman Philipse

The dutch equivalent of Francis Collins versus Daniel Dennett

Distinguished University Professor Cees Dekker's homepage:
http://www.ceesdekker.net/

Distinguished University Professor Herman Philipse's university page:
http://www.phil.uu.nl/~philipse/

Prof. Herman Philipse is also a Fellow at the Center for Inquiry Low Countries:
http://www.cfilowcountries.org/dummy/fellows.html

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[doyoublush]

for Mother Theresa watch the documentary on YT: Hell's Angel! she wasn't as good as most people think.

[doyoublush]

@996vtwin2 because we are group based animals and without morality, we would not have got this far. and you use the God-of-the-Gaps-argument here. "science doesn't know this or that, and therefore God exists"; a statement lacking any kind of logic.

[996vtwin2]

I have HIV, I decide not to reproduce and pass it to another. Or lets say I have a non lethal STD and I dont pass it on. This goes against the evolutionary model. Its not altrusim either. It based on an inane moral standard that science CANNOT explain. Explain!

[MrGunwitch]

Atheist 1

Christian 0

[clorofilazul]

@USAdude30 Stick to your own brain. I will stick to mine!

[clorofilazul]

The religious guy gets a lesson of SCIENCE and PSYCHOLOGY which he can´t grasp. Poor guy. He is beaten so hard!!!! Ahahahaha

[valgez1]

@twooffour P.S. You are full of shit, man.

[twooffour]

@valgez1

...save you from further embarassment - but of course you're unaware of this embarassment because you're insecure and dishonest, so you've convinced yourself that it's some form of "grace".

Well, well, what matters it? Believe that, too.

Had I quitted, it would've been a grace towards myself, as well - because the point where I've realized that you're beyond reasonable communication has LONG passed, or should I say, arrived.

[twooffour]

@valgez1

The aspiring surgeon won't declare "I don't need no silly science, let me kill 50 patients before I figure out how to stop bleeding", and neither will you refuse to "rely on a surgeon's knowledge and skills" if you or someone close to you should suffer a medical emergency.

So of course what you're saying here is pure nonsense to save your own face, as well as contradicting your previous assertions.

Of COURSE you rely on science to provide you with this knowledge - otherwise, you...

[twooffour]

@valgez1

... should she suffer a stroke, or would you call the ambulance? And could you really justify to yourself not to call it?

Then again, you've just shot yourself in the foot with this, because you've already admitted the validity of surgery... which... is based entirely on scientific research and collaborative medical practice.

A surgeon doesn't invent their techniques each on their own, they go through a rigorous education that provides them with already accumulated knowledge.