Rachmaninov Symphony No. 1 - I Grave - Allegro ma non troppo

Rachmaninoff's first Symphony - First Movement (1/2)

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[SharpWalkers]

Lol, i didn't know Rachmaninoff composed the scores for Troy, Avatar, Enemy at the Gate etc..

Horner is so lazy.

[Alejandro77i]

Rachmanigod!!

[REDIKOT]

James Horner plagio´s ??

[BigBadBill2323]

@dedbusted We have both exaggerated, perhaps. Me by using "often", but I would say for certain that the theme of the Finale of the Fourth Symphony is a folk tune, and there are others which don't come immediately to mind.

I have enjoyed discussing it with you.

As for John Williams? He borrows from EVERYONE! There are some very distinctive sections from the Planets by Holst, that you can pick out, that I would cite as an example outside the three you mention.

[dedbusted]

@BigBadBill2323 Yes, you are correct; however, you did say his themes were "often" folk tunes and I was just wondering what "often" means. Tchaikovsky was prolific--maybe not as prolific as others--but how many of his works would you say used "borrowed" themes? Just wondering--I am a fan of Wagner, Tchaikovsky, Rachmaninov, and other Romantic composers and always want to learn more about them. Do you also hear how John Williams sometimes borrows from these three?

[BigBadBill2323]

@dedbusted That is a bit of a "selective" answer, isn't it? I based my comment on the very general statement about Rocky using Tchaik-inspired" themes, and wanted to point out that some of the themes were probably in general use due to their folk nature. If you want an example of a Tchaikovsky symphony using a folk tune, the Fourth Symphony is a prime example. I don't think you can limit your response to "primarily" two symphonies, in this very general discussion.

[dedbusted]

@BigBadBill2323 "Tchaikovsky's "themes" were often folk tunes."

Yes, Russians did borrow folk tunes...but Tchiakovsky's symphonies didn't use folk melodies...did they? I primarily mean 5 and 6.

[BigBadBill2323]

@dedbusted Tchaikovsky's "themes" were often folk tunes. They would have been commonly known by many composers of the day. 

[Lwhite1962]

Rachmaninoff was simply a genius and one of the greatest composers of his time. His work will remain timeless. I discovered him when I was 16 and it's because of his works that I love classical music still at 49. If it were not for him, I would have been satisfied with only Led Zeppelin.

[piahsp12]

While hearing this incredible symphony, it is hard to believe it was his big 'failure'. Maybe some did not like his incredible way to compose? Sounds strange hearing it all...

[bluestarhopeful]

@dedbusted a great composer doesn't borrow, he steals. --Igor Stravinsky

[0casteloencantado0]

4:10 is total wagner