San Francisco Endorses Hr-676 Press Conference June 19, 2008

Kicking off the largest day of healthcare-related protest in many years, San Francisco's Mayor Gavin Newsom will sign a resolution endorsing U.S. Rep. John Conyers' Guaranteed Healthcare bill HR 676.
Following the ceremony, thousands of Americans gathered in San Francisco and 18 other cities on June 19th to protest health insurance corporations and to advocate guaranteed, single-payer healthcare, solutions such as HR 676.
This national protest targets the annual convention of America's Health Patients and their families victimized by AHIP members will be on hand to tell their stories.

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[KyndestKid]

I'm moving to San Francisco so I can finally get away from all these right wing Oligarchs who live in my home state of Indiana. trapsmv9... said it best below

WHO World Health Organization Ranking 37th

Your right you right wingers..... look at what the free markets have done for us!!! We're right next to Slovenia and communist Cuba in this ranking... but don't worry free markets will fix everything. Let's go ahead and privatize social security, & eliminate medicare/medicaid too! WAKE UP!!!

[trapsmv9]

WHO Health Care Ranking:

37. United States of America

I love those free markets.

[funkyflights]

But keep in mind these Banks were not acting strictly because congress said too .... the Banks wanted the closing costs and fee's knowing dam well the people could not afford the homes... the banks figured it's a no lose situation for them because they simply take the house back after collecting the down payments from these people ... so we cant just blame congress .... even though they have failed in so many ways....

[TimeWarp66]

So people suddenly went from not being greedy too greedy, and then everything just collapsed? Come on now.

What actually happened is congress forced banks to remove loaning standards to increase housing ownership to poorer people. The banks didn't get their money back, the system collapsed.

I respect your intentions, but i think their are just better ways to get the good results, and that when you get in bed with government, it's NEVER a good nights sleep.

[TimeWarp66]

Business's don't collude because it's illogical for a better more efficient business to collude with a weaker less efficient business. If I can make a better profit then my competitors, I'm going to run them out of business, not help there share in the market, lol.

The government isn't "the people". The people are "the people"

[funkyflights]

I mean look at what just happened to our country from BIG business.... this whole recession is from GREED ...

[funkyflights]

Here lies the problem ... hospital A and hospital B get together and have a meeting and agree to keep the prices somewhat equally HIGH ... and Hospital A and B know that when your sick YOU HAVE TO GET HELP.... then Hospital C comes along and joins hospital A and B's club ... you see BIG business can own the market and be worse than the government ... at least the government is for the people by the people ... BIG business is dangerous especially when it owns the market ...

[TimeWarp66]

If hospital A is charging "outlandish amounts for simple services", hospital B, (hospital A's competitor) will charge less for those same services, thus forcing hospital A to either go out of business, or lower it's prices to compete with hospital B. Competition in a free market is what keeps prices down, and quality high. When the government steps in, competition is removed. In my view, you don't have the right to steal people's money (taxes) to provide a "publicly funded health care option"

[funkyflights]

While it sounds good to be in charge of your own health care the problem is .... hospitals know you need the care so they charge outlandish amounts for simple services... look ... I think the best way to handle it realistically while still keeping some bipartisanship is to offer private health insurance if you want it ... but also offering publicly funded health care options... why not give the American people the choice... private insurance companies wont be able to fuck people over as much.

[TimeWarp66]

It's easy to be generous with other people's money.

I completely agree with you, no matter how much cash you have you should be helped, but through charity.

Why would you want an HMO or a government office dealing with YOUR healthcare costs and needs. You should be in charge of your own healthcare, just like you're in charge of every other aspect of your life.