Prof. Michael Baum Interview (2/6) - Richard Dawkins

This is the full, uncut interview with Professor Michael Baum which was filmed for Channel 4's "The Enemies of Reason." Michael Baum is Professor Emeritus of Surgery at University College London. The discussion covers alternative and complimentary medicines, and how they interact with scientific medicine. This video is provided free online by The Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science and http://richarddawkins.net . If you enjoy the video and would like to support our work, please purchase the program on DVD (which includes 8 other uncut interviews) at: http://richarddawkins.net/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&...

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• Richard Dawkins
• Michael Baum
• Complimentary Medicine
• Alternative Medicine
• Homeopathy
• Science

[om3g488]

Unless you are a doctor, QUIT GIVING MEDICAL ADVICE! It is irresponsible and dangerous to give people advice on which you are not an athority.

[PostalNation]

All you sinners, LISTEN UP! I'm only going to say this once. The truth, as revealed in the Gospel According To Sheryl Crow, is self evident and you shall bow before it!

Crow, Chapter 12, Verse 2:

"All I want to do is have some fun."

[53iBro]

@PostalNation Praise be to Crow!

[TomFynn]

@Generalscorpio I surmise that the good doctor was speaking metaphorically. While the mechanisms of QM are far removed from the macroscopic world or mind has evolved to cope with, the predictions and equation of QM are precise, and testable. In fact they have been tested again and again to an astonishing degree of precision.

The predictions of claims of parapsychology when tested so far have always turned out to be bull...

[pleex]

Title should say Dr. Michael Baum - He is a physician(Medical Oncologist)

[Generalscorpio]

Interestingly somewhere around 2:20 he mentions paranormal phenomena and the way in which the closer you study them the less there is to them, has some parallels with quantum theory in that the more you read of quantum theory the less it seems to make sense to most people yet Dawkins would happily back up quantum theory and use that as an example of scientific endeavor whereas he would never consider the study of the paranormal to have a similar worth, even if it were done scientifically.

[DrNancyMalik]

Real is scientific homeopathy. It cures even when Conventional Allopathic Medicine (CAM) fails. Evidence-based modern homeopathy is a nano-medicine bringing big results for everyone

[rgs11]

@om3g488 Nah, they should just be honest about their credentials. Experts disagree; the important thing is not to misrepresent your experience/expertise.

[MrManumona]

@andromidius The question, sir, is very simple: Are you a medical doctor? If you are not, then youa are just not qualified to judge in this matter. BTH, and hust in case, I am a medical doctor.

[andromidius]

@MrManumona Its not a medical system at all. If it was, it would be testable and proven to be effective, and thus be part of modern medicine. As it is, any independant tests have failed completely. Thus it isn't medicine. At best its a ritual to try and make people feel better. At worst its a complete scam designed to take money from gullible and ignorant people.

[HeavyweightThinker]

@MrManumona Since homeopathy contradicts any physical law and has no effect if you overview the overviews of the trials, then it is your position that is untenable. YOu are just babbling basically.

[MrManumona]

@issanlao What evidence are they showing? What evidence are YOU showing? Who are you to ask for "evidence"? Who are you to tell me to shut up? You are disguising your brutality and sheer ignorance with "military" orders. You behave like a brute savant.Perhaps you are.

[issanlao]

@MrManumona

Show some evidence or just.....shut up!

[MrManumona]

Dr. Dawkins is -as usually quite out of his league on this area -which is quite alien to his academic expertise- trying to debunk anything that does not fit into his schematic view of the Universe. The difference between he and many of us is that our view includes his. He has apparently transformed himself into a a new Torquemada from the other side around. Professor Baum cannot judge a medicine system that he has not studied at all

[Anon12356]

4:51

"the universe"

I doubt that, more like planet earth.

[Nemesis000000]

@om3g488 Deepak Chopra is a doctor

[nothingnesswithouten]

I think Prof. Baum meant to say "in the whole world" (i.e. Earth) instead of the "whole universe".

[TretasYT]

The video description says "The discussion covers alternative and complimentary medicines [...]" - You probably mean "complementary", not "complimentary".

[ashbash986]

Sorry :(

[StevIestallion]

Nothing but nature eh? Ricin? Anthrax? Dog sh!t? polonium? neutron stars?

Natural doesn't mean good.

Which natural anaesthetic are you going to want when you need an operation? And which natural antibiotic?

[ryko26]

what a very interesting and pleasant man this Baum chap seems.

[ilkinond]

No - Julius Cesaer's piss could not have reached out to the entire universe, because even if it had set off from his bladder at the speed of light it would not yet have reached water in farther flung parts of the universe - that cannot be right.

[adamb0000]

@MopDMTBARTL did you not hear the bit which says it is called alternative medicine as it doesnt work as well. if it worked better - then it would just be the main medicine rather than alternative.