The Last Western Heretic - Lloyd Geering part4

A documentary about the New Zealand theologian Lloyd Geering. Broadcast on TVNZ 12 Jan 2008.

Part 4 - Resurrection

Watch the whole thing here:
http://nz.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=BA1273B1BAB3B174

Geering is Emeritus Professor of Religious Studies at Victoria University, Wellington. He holds a D.D. from the University of Otago, a Masters Degree in Mathematics and was a minister in the Presbyterian Church of Aotearoa New Zealand and turned to theological teaching in 1956. He was tried and found not guilty of heresy in 1967 by the PCANZ. Geering is a controversial commentator on theological issues and considers Christian and Muslim fundamentalism to be a social evil.

In 1967 Professor Geering gained a high profile when the Presbyterian Church charged him with heresy for his radical beliefs. During his "trial" he claimed that the remains of Jesus lay somewhere in Palestine, and that the resurrection had been wrongfully interpreted by churches as a resuscitation of the body of Jesus. He also rejects the notion that God is a supernatural being who created and continues to look over the world.

He is a member of the Jesus Seminar and a participant in the program Living the Questions, an alternative to the Evangelical Alpha course; he is also a member of the Sea of Faith Network.

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Paul was a theologian, not a historian.

[ThisCanadian]

does jeddah91 ever shut up?

[jeddah91]

I cannot detail how wonderful it is when you fufill you purpose here. And you are instructed by Father, who gives "wisdom" .

To know who you are, what you are, where you are, and why you are here.

This is just one fraction of the blessing that Father will grace you with.

To know yourself is a blessing, how is mankind doesn't know himself?

Blessing to all

[jeddah91]

Father plows his garden "earth" he then plans "seeds" then the growing "flesh" learning, then he comes to collect the fruit that any seeds might have produced for him.

It isn't sin that keeps the seed dormant, I assure yo, flesh is SIN, more accurately a corruption of Light. So what causes the seed to respond, to cause a rebirth, of your true life?

Never put your trust in anyone's hands here in this place, all here is deceit. To know this you must stop accepting in blindness & look

[jeddah91]

We are already into a new season, and great changes, beyond anything man has ever experienced in his recorded history will takes its place in Fathers order, a continuing process.

This process has come and gone many times, in 4.5 billion years and will continue, like clockwork.

Nothing is really new or discovered or invented, only rediscovered, renewed reinvented. and Father renews when it is time too.Many assume it is a destruction, but fail to understand Fathers process.cont..

[jeddah91]

There is a Divine calendar, but knowledge of this calendar destroyed, the civilization destroyed "Maya" by the crusades of church and another given to man, before he looked on his own. he accepted this calendar that is worthless, its called the Gregorian calendar and it was given to deceive man.

Father has seasons, but you don't know them if you did, you could easily become a prophet.

Just as I can tell you Dec is going to be cold.

It isn't really prophecy at all, its knowledge .

[jeddah91]

Here in this place, you will never read truth, all has been destroyed or removed or altered, in order to keep you here.

The key to being released isn't death I assure you

You will never find a resurrection from the grave, it is from the flesh, while in this place..It is a season, one could say, that history has no records of. fathers seasons are very long, beyond our recorded history.A new season is already begun and man is about to learn something he has never known before.

[jeddah91]

when you are full, you will change I assure you. Father put something in you, and you will change, you were created with instructions "DNA" to do so.

Like a bird that has no choice but to lay an egg, or a bird to migrate south for the winter, or a salmon knows where and when to spawn.

When you are full of this place, you will change a desire with in you. This desire is a signal that you are ready, and great changes will begin. You will produce fruit for Father

"Son of Man" cont..

[jeddah91]

You are a extension of Father own Light. Flesh is a corruption of this light. Not a sin, but a lowering of Fathers light. You could not continue to exist in this very low light, this corruption of light. So he put you in flesh, and through the flesh you experience Life lacking Fathers light.. It is for the purpose of knowing, learning, so you can know existence apart from your Father and exist. And if you look out your door, you will see this existence "hell". cont..

[jeddah91]

When father created your life, he put it in flesh so that you could become perfected. To understand existence as imperfect, to know the lack of his Light.

Imagine never knowing darkness on the planet, to become a perfection is too experience all. How could you appreciate a perfect fruit, when you have never known bad fruit. DO you see?

You are going to make many errors, this is one of your purposes in flesh. When you are full, you will crucify all flesh desires, and only ONE will remain.

[jeddah91]

Father gave everyone a gift and he put it where no one could ever take it from you. It cannot be corrupted or altered, mankind as of yet has not known this or found this. Man is learning, through the senses of flesh. Flesh is not who you are, it is where your true life is placed.But we only know the flesh, and read about the ideas of others. All you will ever need is within you, no one can ever take it. Father understood you will make many errors, this is how you learn. cont...