Michael Moore at The Nation and The New School Panel Discussion (11/10/11)
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@n8glenn Lame answer, glenn. The E.U. embraced marxism and look at 'em now. I was union once, til I figured out what was coming down the pike, due to GREED. What is now unsustainable was created by some unions that simply got greedy. Not the government...unions...oh and the incredible spendable Democrats.
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@Boris82much Now, everyone starts out at the bottom, or most people do, and many people stay at the bottom their whole lives! It's not so wrong to ask that children who start out at the bottom have a CHANCE is it? I don't think so, and I started out working as a roustabout on oil rigs, I worked in mechanic shops, I manned cash registers, I worked mostly two jobs at a time, so I think I know about starting out on the bottom.
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@Boris82much It's not too much to ask to get an education without being put into debt slavery for the rest of your life. It's not too much to ask to have a decent wage which allows you to live with some level of dignity and enjoyment in the richest country in the history of mankind. Those tax payers you keep talking about, THEY are the ones who want those things! They pay taxes, WHETHER OR NOT they get anything for them! So yeah, they should get something in RETURN for taxes!
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@n8glenn Bingo: "affordable education" (The taxpayers who work hard pay for it again as usual); "decent jobs which allow them to live COMFORTABLY" (LMFAO!!! none of you are willing to start at the bottom flipping hamburgers and work your way up...my grandfather started pumping gas in 1920 and retired COMFORTABLY); "some want pot legalized" (no duh!!!). YOU ARE DESCRIBING THE VERY SYSTEM THAT IS SINKING THE E.U. AS WE SPEAK!!!!! LMAO!!! Look dear, do the world a favor and please stay in school.
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@Boris82much Let's just think about this for a second, the tea party started over objections to the bailouts, but the people who got the bailouts and of course the koche brothers quickly coopted the movement, and now what are they advocating? Smaller government, less regulation of wall street, lower taxes for the rich, etc. Those are exactly the things which got us in this mess, and made wall street powerful enough to demand bailouts, while sinking our economy.
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@Boris82much Yeah, you just described OWS as well. They are soldiers, students, small business owners, concerned citizens of all stripes, and they don't hate the tea party, members, even though they recognize, like most people do, that the tea party got misdirected early on to do the bidding of the rich who just got the bailouts. Sorry, but the tea party got taken over by the very people they are against and they don't know it yet.
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@n8glenn The Tea Party, made up of small business owners, people who started working from the bottom up never looking for hand-outs, union members, soldiers who put their asses on the line for you and Americans from all income levels, started while Bush was in office, over the fear the government was going to screw around with their SS, Medicare and Medicaid...which is why one OWS GROUP IS NOW BACKING THE TEA PARTY IN THEIR CITY.
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@Boris82much And btw, if moore has some scheme to make money off of OWS, then explain it to me, I'd like to hear about this, I don't know how he would do it, and actually I think he's doing pretty good with that book he just released.
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@Boris82much Great! I like Moore and I despise obama! Listen, if you want to know what the OWS is about, just read the declaration of the occupation of new york, google it. You're exaggerating what they want, they want affordable education, and decent jobs which allow them to live comfortably, no more, and some want pot legalized, why not? We drink, we smoke tobacco, why not smoke pot? It's ridiculous to fill up prisons fighting the "war on drugs", it just prohibition part duh.
MM is a national treasure!
vrove8 3 months ago 17
Michael Moore should have some cross-country town hall discussions about America's problems (in all 50 states) and make it into a film.
MishuTaste 3 months ago 14