Ten Penny Bit

Irish jig in the format planned for the upcoming Fiddle Tune Video Library. Two times through up to tempo with a basic version of the melody, then a slow tempo demonstration, then medium tempo, then performance tempo with ornaments and variations.

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[DefeatedElitist]

@Beany194508 I've changed my opinion, due to musolo's music knowledge. However your argument holds absolutely no strength. Just because something's played in an Irish pub, does not make it Irish. A lot of English pub sessions have gone awry in recent years, so your statement is no indication.

Furthermore, a lot of Irish songs have direct origins in English songs. Being played in an Irish pub doesn't mean anything, I'm afraid.

[DefeatedElitist]

@musosolo I'm willing to accept that it's Irish, although I still haven't seen you produce solid proof. I'll trust your musical knowledge. However, you still refuse to answer my main point concerning the Irish and their disregard for the English.

[Beany194508]

Yeah, it's irish.

Heard it played in a million irish pubs, not in english.

[musosolo]

@DefeatedElitist

You just can't stand being wrong, can you DE?

It's Irish.

[DefeatedElitist]

@musosolo How far back does this go? Even if this is the case, you still have not addressed my point about the Irish refusing to acknowledge that something of theirs may have connections to England. There are still very many "Irish" things that are English in origin.

[musosolo]

@DefeatedElitist

These listings are from collectors who notate the tune, source and origin.

It's you that's making the assumptions, not the collectors.

It's Irish.

Let it go man.

[DefeatedElitist]

@musosolo My argument was more aimed at the fact people naturally assume this is an Irish tune. Where is the evidence it is? A lot of people say it is English, should that not be enough of a reason to say the source of it is unknown, rather than blindly claiming it to be Irish?

Furthermore, my point stands about the Irish refusing to acknowledge anything they consider their own to have connections to England. This is a very ignorant and backwards view.

[DefeatedElitist]

@musosolo That's not solid proof. Any number of those listings could have taken their source from the other. You could say it's Irish, someone would read it, think you were right, and repeat that it was Irish to someone else. It only takes one wrong person to change something.

[musosolo]

@DefeatedElitist

Check out abcnotation dot co m with a query search for tenpenny bit.

In the first 30 listings there is only one which gives an English origin. The rest are all Irish with a few where the origin is not provided.

[musosolo]

@DefeatedElitist I think you need to cite your sources to be believable DE. Your argument is just hearsay and unjustified.