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Uploaded by on Nov 14, 2007

... and back into the light.

No free will? If you agree, great! If you disagree, well then I agree with you, too. There is free will. But it is absolutely powerless. All it does is want and believe. It has no ability to manifest or carry through with an action. Action requires faith, which just means trust in the unknown. Faith is surrender. Free will requires separation from the Other; it distances the self from origin, it looks into the mirror and sees somebody else.

Once we even start asking the question: "Is there free will?", it seems we've already gone too far. The real question is "who wants to be free?"

Whenever you say "I will", you're projecting an image into the future of what you would like to happen. But where does that desire actually come from? Did "you" decide to have it? And even if you think you did, does the image of what you wanted ever line up with what you actually get? So how can you freely chose something if you never know what it is really going to be until you've got it?




Free will vs. determinsim?

Tell me what time is, then we can start taking cause and effect seriously. Until we have a solid definition for temporality and a full proof explanation of becoming, differentiating causes from their effects is artistry, pure imagination. Unless anyone can provide an adequate theory for time/becoming, I am going to claim that deciding between freedom and fate is impossible and makes no sense at all.

My guess and intuition is that time cannot be explained precisely because time is not space, it can't be laid out on a flat surface and examined.

Thinking about time is what forces us to move into the "verb" world(ing) instead of staying in the usual "noun" world.

There's no beginning or ending to time (it is not a noun), because those boundaries make sense only in terms of space (or distance between places, which require time to elapse). Or more simply, time and space are one. and any bounded "object" or "noun" with a beginning and an end makes sense only within time and space among many other "nouns" with their own beginnings and endings. Time itself cannot have a beginning and an ending, because what then does time exist within? what could possibly exist outside the "boundaries" of time, the very creator of boundary itself?

time is eternal. it is infinite. it is a loop. you can't possibly stand outside it to direct its course. you don't carry it. it carries you. it never began, it will never end. it has no boundary. it just happens.

it can watch itself tick, but don't let the watch fool you for the time (don't mistake the dualities of language (observer and observed, describer and described) for the seamlessness of experience.

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  • ACtually there is a beginning and an end. LIke the world began from stardust. It will end when the sun explodes. Your video began with you being high. And ended with you being a little less high:)

  • Okay, so you're saying that something wanted us to make a computer and the internet, and wanted us to share our thoughts on it? Thought are free will. So tell me how that is possible.

  • excuse me, i mean, lets follow brain activity in detail to that which led to the said event. Ahh, the smoking gun. It was this combination of brain cells. -- "man on the run 411"

    The reason for the slight preference for individual over group identity within our brains has to do with the permanent attachment our body has with our brain, whereas the objects and community of people around us is only connected to us thru Sigmund Freud.

  • wild!!!

  • "I" is always another, the world an illusion, future and past only an idea/concepts :)

  • Read the "Law of One" It will help you to understand. It is availabble for free as a .pdf download on the internet.

  • Very thought provoking. I think about consciousness sometimes. About who actually remembers events in life and what memories may even be, I even have this thought of memories being made of stardust and traveling through space. I like the ideas you talk about. It reminds me of philosophy, always thinking and examining life. :)

  • I see determinism as a more communal philosophy, rather then an I. The past (person, place and things), determine the kind of "descisions" you make.

    Perhaps an easier way to put what you are saying is that there is will, but it is not free...

  • So it's still begining huh?

  • SO.. if there is no "free will" then tell us about creativity.... Good to see you again.

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