school bus erodes cycle lane

Traffic lights turn red but coach proceeds beyond stop line to occupy cyclist's advanced stop lane. Coach passes cyclist and veers across mandatory cycle lane.

Category:

Autos & Vehicles

Tags:

• Cambridge
• cyclist
• school
• bus
• coach
• cycle
• lane

[leewink]

... And if you just sat behind that bus and let it move off, as you could clearly see that to get past it would cause you a problem, we'd all be cool and it wouldn't of esculated, AGAIN, a little courteousy instead of ME ME ME does wonders, it aint about who's got right of way either, its about calming the roads for all, you dont help that !!

[mailpauljonescouk]

Modern road design in cities now gives first priority to cyclists at junctions, allowing the cyclist to wait in front of traffic. Drivers need to be patient and if it's not safe to squeeze by, then wait. The average speed of a bicycle in the city is often higher than motor traffic as the cyclist can bypass the queues, by design. It must be frustrating for motorists to watch, but that's no excuse for bad behaviour.

[leewink]

I still dont get you, you place all this risk VOLUNTARILY on yourself, again, no hazard perception or even care, have the front to get this on telly whinging at cars/buses/anything not a bike, you or that camera wont be no good under the wheels, you do nothing for the "look out for bikes" campaign, NOTHING.

[mailpauljonescouk]

Yes, there are risks on the road and traffic jams are getting longer. One sure way to add to the queuing traffic is to intimidate cyclists back into their cars. Remember each cyclist may reduce the length of the traffic jam by 1 car. How about encouraging people to cycle so that everyone can get where they're going more quickly on crowded city streets? Motorists would move more freely if some drivers chose to cycle.

[mailpauljonescouk]

I'd use the same method again in similar circumstances where the lights have only just gone red. Not keen on breathing diesel fumes in a traffic queue or being in between vehicles when lights change. Off camera the cyclist had travelled twice the distance of the bus in the previous km due to traffic jam. Leap frogging seems inevitable in stop start traffic if riding in cycle lanes. The high risk event was how coach overtook cyclist.

[mailpauljonescouk]

Ismike: on balance as things worked out in this film, I think you're right. If your method is generally better, then it does bring into question why ASLs are there at all! My understanding is that part of the logic of ASLs is placing cyclists where they can be seen.

[mixxyuk]

Priority is only given at some junctions not at all junctions, perhaps this is where so many cyclists get hurt, they ASSUME they have priority at all junctions and can undertake where they like & yes drivers need to be patient as do cyclists, give other vehicles room to manouvre ,use common sense & not break the law.

[leewink]

"It must be frustrating for motorists to watch, but that's no excuse for bad behaviour." ON BOTH PARTIES you have to see, again it could of been diffused by you. And your last comment, should you not wait either if the way is temporarily blocked ? for your own safety and a measely few seconds on your journey ?

[labyonnette]

Breath in the fumes, fucking cyclists

[iib8903]

i agree

[wigglysaddle]

Yes, I agree with cosybike. I think the videos are great, but sometimes I wonder if you're putting your safety in jeopardy in order to make the viewer aware of that danger.

Don't end up getting hurt just for the sake of a good video.

[wigglysaddle]

I think ASLs are mostly for the benefit of cyclists wishing to turn left. You can position yourself in front of the coach where it can't overtake, and then you can safely turn left without being squeezed into the corner.

I fail to see the point of using them if you're going straight on. What you've done is rushed to overtake the coach at the lights, only for it to overtake you immediately after

If a car had done the same to you, you'd be have posted it here as an example of bad driving!

[arniecommando]

Cambridge's Mill Rd Coleridge Rd Junction. 44 Tonne Artic waiting at lights going up Mill Rd, 24" short of stop line,RHS tyres approx 14" off the white centre line = LHS tyres maybe 8" off kerb.Not enough room for cyclists in front NO ASL no room to overtake or undertake,Truck 110%ligitimately positioned.3 cyclists, wheels on road push with left foot on path down 8" gap pass LGV & sit on pedestrian crossing, and you say "Drivers need to be patient and if it's not safe to squeeze by" Cyclists???

[Camsplint]

He had absolutely no need (or right) to use that cycle lane at all. I've driven HGVs along that very route, and there is plenty of width, even at junctions.

He just doesn't know the law OR how to drive his vehicle safely.

Moving to the front of the queue up the cycle lane is what it's put there for, and the coach driver is committing an offence by partially blocking it, and then compounding it by using his vehicle as a weapon to intimidate the cyclist for using the cycle lane as designed.

[WannabeCPH]

Agree.

[FreeRadical57]

The Highway Code can be found online

Google highway code uk

The rule numbers have changed, my most recent HWC is 2000, but the rules have not altered in substance.

[FreeRadical57]

The UK Highway Code is clear on this, the bus driver was at fault. Need more Plod and on the spot fines.

Overtaking:

139 more room for cyclists.

Motorists and cyclists:

188 more room for cyclists,

189 more room for cyclists.

There is no doubt!