NEW YORK, NY - DECEMBER 17: Protesters attempt to occupy a Trinity Wall Street owned vacant lot adjacent to Juan Pablo Duarte Square on the three month anniversary of Occupy Wall Street on December 17, 2011 in New York City. (Video by D Dipasupil)
Arrests start around the 5:30 minute mark and crowd control gets increasingly difficult for NYPD soon after. Fence almost goes down just before 9:00.
My still images can be viewed here: http://goo.gl/5mNvi
@rhytonen ("You gotta hand it to her")
rhytonen 1 week ago
@joanofarc33 r2m's point was not the circumstances of the action, but the relative merits of the actors' values - the profit motive. Christs's exclusive violent (and singularly unforgiving) reaction was to the DIFFERENCE between holiness, righteousness if you will- and the profit motive. His lifetime behavior shows He considered NO two values so incongruous, thus, the profit motive -greed- to be THE ultimate evil. (people are SO thick sometimes...anyone know the joke about the blind prostitute?)
rhytonen 1 week ago
@11222stan Even better: (& re: Civil -and even uncivil- disobedience of The Law)
"As through this world I've rambled, I've seen lots of funny men
Some rob you with a six gun - some with a fountain pen.
But as through this world you ramble, as through this world you roam
You'll never see an "outlaw"
drive a family from their home."
From My favorite Woody Guthrie tune - "The Ballad of Pretty Boy Floyd."
rhytonen 1 week ago
The first example of "corporatism" (=Fascism,"=the merger of state and industry power," -Beniito Mussolini)was Elizabeth I's "East India Tea Company" charter.
A country called "America" was formed in direct opposition, defiance and refutation of that oppressive abuse by a government/business collaboration, police and military enforcing business' singular, amoral profit motive on the people. Then that country proceeded to do the same damn thing. (corporate co-opted "TEA party:" TAKE NOTE! )
rhytonen 1 week ago
Trinity Church did one thing, Trinity's Real Estate Arm -a BUSINESS- run by Wall Street Financiers (their "board")-did another.A church isn't a business and shouldn't be, any more than a government should be & this shows why.
We have problems today, of which neither Jesus nor the Founding Fathers/Constitution had any idea or concept. A business is not a person - and if you consider it so, it is an inherently asocially, muderously psychotic CRIMINAL"person"- See the Documentary"The Corporation."
rhytonen 1 week ago
It’s an attempt to carve out a protected space, a living conscience for the city, amid the repression. A refuge, in a city where control-freaks would sweep us under the rug, and out of the way. In a city where they would pen us in, and permit us to death...“move on, move on”..... you don’t belong, you don’t count, you don’t have a right to be here...don’t assemble, don’t block the street, don’t trespass, don’t EXIST! They would deny us, deny our lives, deny our very futures. IF WE LET THEM.
11222stan 2 months ago
This land is your land This land is my land
From California to the New York island;
From the red wood forest to the Gulf Stream waters
This land was made for you and Me.
11222stan 2 months ago
AGAIN, the board (VESTRY) of Trinity (who control the REAL ESTATE arm, something we've known since medieval times makes churches or clergy neither church nor clergy but merely another greedy corrupt business or individual,) are mostly Wall Street CEO/bankers. They're against OWS as OWS exists to expose and oppose the very corruption they have brought to government, and as OWS has now EXPOSED; even to the church.
The action was both appropriate and effective.
rhytonen 2 months ago
In a city where control-freaks would sweep us under the rug and out of the way...as they deny us, as they deny our lives, as they deny our very futures....OWS responds, loudly, BOTH in word and in DEED: we BELONG, we STAND our ground, and we DO matter! This is OUR land, and we want it BACK! The word OCCUPY says it all!rinity Church with its oft-proclaimed ideals (and its huge land holdings), should look deep into its collective soul, do the right thing, and help OWS.
11222stan 2 months ago
@rhytonen Disobedience against what exactly? OWS is about fighting financial inequality, corporate corruption and abuses, corporate infiltration of the US government, bailouts, foreclosures, the disenfranchisement of the working and middle class, deregulation. Exactly how does that translate into trying to take over someone else's land after they have been helping OWS in other ways? What are you Israeli or something?
joanofarc33 2 months ago