Claude Shannon - Father of the Information Age

>> I think that he would be able to compete with foreigners.
>> What you are suggesting is that jobs be reserved for "white people"
>> no matter how stupid. The point: he might not have even TRIED. He had an unremarkable academic background but achieved great new innovations. He would have been scared to enter STEM caused by the flood of foreign students and workersthe jobs be given to American kids whatever race as long term prospects like Claude Shannon, John Bardeen,Jack S. Kilby,Ted Hoff.

Of course, if he had been displaced by an H1B for his first jobs ...we would not have modern telecommunications. Make you wonder why CS was a white American and not Indian or Chinese!

What a silly argument... there will always be jobs for minds like Shannon: there is not one major tech company or university which wouldn't want to hire at least a dozen guys of his caliber. The market for talent isn't the same as the market for other jobs.

When Shannon entered university in the 1930s, the US government didn't import 85K H1B competitors to the work force each year. The flood of H1B has caused depression of wages and shortened careers. Had H1B been around back then; he might have not entered STEM at all. The danger is that modern Shannons simply DON"T go into STEM meaning that the new innovations will NEVER HAPPEN!

@linuxguru1968: Shannon never in competition with any H1B work force. He was 21 and a masters' student at MIT when he did his first revolutionary work.

That's the point. If he had had to compete with 85K+ people per year, he might have decided NOT to go to MIT and NEVER done his revolutionary work. The problem is that the future Shannon's in America aren't going into STEM because of the bad effects of H1B.

H1B is a work visa. Shannon proved himself as a student, before having any in which he'd have to compete with H1B's.

With their discoveries, people like Shannon create significantly more than 85k jobs a year.

Actually, university's are employers that hire H1Bs although you are right and foreign students come in on other visa types as well and then displace native by taking H1B visa slots. But, NO H1B has every made a discovery that created 85K jobs a year. H1Bs displace the Shannons which is the problem. We need more Shannons and H1Bs are driving the future Shannons out of STEM!

Not really, Claude Berrou, Alain Glavieux they invent turbo codes that achieve the capacity, but Gallagar invnet LDPC code far earlier than Turbo Codes.