Ring of Honor: Greatest Rivalries

RING OF HONOR provides their dedicated fan-base with an exciting and electric show, full of athleticism and passion. This DVD features matches showcasing the greatest rivalries in ROH history.

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Category:

Sports

Tags:

• honor
• men
• ring
• sports
• sweat
• tights
• wcw
• wrestling
• wwe

[RandomMindz]

1:40

"IT'S THAT ALL YOU GOT??"

love that sort of attitude

[darkpatriot85]

@Anglefan12 I don't really mean spots, although they're fun at the climax of the match, I mean maneuvers and holds. They come up with really creative stuff.

[Anglefan12]

I do like the occassional spotfest, but to me,a spotfest doesn't do a whole lot for me.I mean,how many flippity headdrops can you see before it's just another variation?Personally,I honestly think John Cena is a top 5 worker in the world.My theory on how good a wrestler is is this"how well do they work their specific audience?"Basically, if you do flipity head drops and it gets over, you're good.If you do 3 moves but pose and tell a good in ring stoyr, you're just as good if your'e just as over.

[Anglefan12]

@darkpatriot85 No no, I don't mean like a storyline, I mean like an in ring story. 99% of the NOAH juniors don't sell or tell any sort of story in the ring. They DO come up with some awesome spots, but after a while I get numb to that and really don't give a shit. Dave Meltzer gave the 2006 dragon gate 6 man 5 stars. It wasn't close, a 4 star spotfest that is now outdated. An in ring story is what makes a match timeless and good, not a "oooo" spot that is topped in 2 months.

[darkpatriot85]

@Anglefan12 I used to think it sucked because of PG, too. Then when I started to watch indy shows more, like Chikara (who has PG written all over it), I rethought my position. One thing about the Japanese, they do come up with some really creative moves and spots. When it comes to the story it depends which promotion you watch. The older ones don't care about story but some of the newer ones do. Look up Dragon Gate.

[Anglefan12]

@darkpatriot85 Well, i personally hate most current japanese wrestling because they kill finishers and all sense of believablility. They don't care about selling or telling in ring stories for the mos part anymore. With cena, the reason he hasn't been blood soaked is because they're PG. Which I'm cool with because it's the natural cycle of things and if someone thinks the WWE sucks because it's PG, they need to rethink wrestling. blood and cussing doesn't make you a good wrestler.

[dbzdezz1]

lol its the money thats it thats y people go to wwe period ad said that him self it stop being bout the fans along time ago

[darkpatriot85]

@Anglefan12 Without a doubt. People don't just go to shows for the hell of it. The way I see it, compared to what I first saw, I think the bigger he got the more watered down he got. When was the last time he had blood covering his whole face and he was barely able to walk out after a tough victory. You'd think that would be a good message; don't give up. Maybe I'm just being too critical, but that's what happens when you see too many Japanese wrestling shows.

[Anglefan12]

@darkpatriot85 here's the way I see it. Cena actaully does put on good matches, whether you agree or not, his selling and emotion and storytelling is really really good. He's a good lookin guy who is safe in the ring and is willing to promote the hell out of everything, that's why he's the face of the WWE, because he sells. That's the bottom line in wrestling, that's why it's "the business"

[darkpatriot85]

@Anglefan12 I'm glad we finally agree on something. I think the indy guys, this is just a guess, don't like big guys because they're being shoved down our throats. Example- John Cena before rap album, commercials and "The Marine" badass. After: no one likes him except for the kids. I guess they need someone to look up to but after last monday, who knows.