Forbidden Broadway: Les Mis Part Two

The second part of the Forbidden Broadway Les Mis with "Bring It Down", some talky bit, "Empty Songs with Empty Lyrics" and "Do You hear the people sing?"

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Entertainment

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• parody
• Les
• Miserables
• Forbidden
• Broadway
• Miz
• Empty
• Songs
• Lyrics
• Hear
• People
• Sing

[obiwanobiwan13]

@Peadarisback The worst part of Rent--yes, "originality" is a slippery determination, but there's still a point where it's OBVIOUS a work is really trying to pass off older and better works in a new, shiny package, which is what damns Rent: it's not even a GOOD rip off work! It doesn't punch up the story, it's made for teens! And the music is ATROCIOUS! Can you HONESTLY SAY that Rent's music is richer or in any way better than Boheme's? (And, yes...sorry for replying 5 months late!) ;)

[obiwanobiwan13]

@Peadarisback And on the subject of Shakespeare, I'm not denying the man took his plays--some, there are some, mostly in his comedies, that are "mostly" his own ideas--from sources or that R&J was such a case. I AM saying, however, that 1. R&J is really so cliche a story and was in even his day that the plot is so basic anyone and everyone "steals" it, Shakespeare just used "better" words, the notes of literature and 2. There are many influences on "Hamlet," yes, but the LANGUAGE, again--him.

[obiwanobiwan13]

@Peadarisback It's NOT a modernization of Boheme, it's either a direct rip-off OR, where it attempts to be original, does so in a way that's either so superficial or so forced and obvious that it isn't thematic so much as it HITS YOU OVER THE HEAD with its "themes," trying desperately to be deep but, to borrow from Shakespeare again, it is "full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing." The HIV "element" of the story feels forced and contrived, DESPERATELY wanting to be topic--and falling short.

[ASHtheMUSICALgirl13]

I love pretty much all musicals. Up until rescently My favorites were Wicked, the Phantom of the Opera, and CATS (just because I love real life cats and I only like three songs from that show). However, now that I'm listening to Les Mis and am going to watch it here on youtube, I will say that this Musical will be my new favorite. I love the music, story, and characters. Evita was a really good movie (in my opinion) but I never saw it live, so I can't really comment on that as a favorite musical

[Peadarisback]

@obiwanobiwan13 and no i'm not criticizing cats it's quite a good musical - though probably over-rated - I prefer Evita which also by your logic shouldn't exist because it's based on a real life figure....Everything copies, everything, is inspired by other things and pays tribute/refrences other things....try to open your mind.

Rent is nowhere near les miserable standards or even sweeney todd standards or phantom but it's still quite an enjoyable MODRENIZATION musical

[Peadarisback]

@obiwanobiwan13 also Shakesperre didn't just "use" ideas from other stories/plays he directly borrowed/copied "Rome and Julliet" for example is largely based on a poem called "Romeo and Julliet", Hamlet: although an absoulte masterpiece is clearly insipred by some European legends and folklore. By your logic "into the woods" by Sondheim or "Cats" by Lloyd Webber shouldn't exist because their based on things (espically the latter, as into the woods sort of has some orginal plot)

[Peadarisback]

@obiwanobiwan13 you don't know a lot about Rent or it's begingings do you? Jonathan Larson intended it to be a MODRENIZATION of "la boheme." the orginal bit is that it's modren, and instead of TB been the threeat to the main protagonists it's HIV, there were no same-sex relationships in La Boheme - from what I know... RENT is meant to in many ways pay homage to it, Larson obviously liked La Boheme

[Katluver56]

@hpsmteddi

QUast all the way!!!!

[obiwanobiwan13]

@Peadarisback But it's soTRITE. It's either directly ripping off from "La Boheme" (and as it's not meant as a parody but is passed off as an "original" work that's not acceptable, influences in art are unavoidable and even a thankful advantage, and SHAKESPEARE, the KING of theatre, he took ideas for his shows from previous works, but he also implemented his own ideas and feeling, "La Boheme" does not) or else is bastardizing it by directly going against it.

It's trite and a "teen show."

[Peadarisback]

@EratosDaughter I'd say more like Garry Morrison but he sounds sort of similar to Wilkison...