Atheistic Questions, Theistic Answers, Agnostic Conclusions

This video is meant to defend my original video on the problem of evil and address the additional objections raised by ToddAllenGates. It covers the logical problem of evil as well as the evidential problem of evil and deals specifically with the effectiveness of each argument.

My original video: "The Problem of Evil, Is It a problem? Logical and Evidential Formulations Addressed"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ySUoboxsmI&feature=channel_page


ToddAllenGates response: "Theists have "answers" to the problem of suffering, but the answers are unconvincing"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d76SG4HC0TY&feature=response_watch


www.testeverything521.com/

Category:

People & Blogs

Tags:

• atheistic
• questions
• theistic
• answers
• agnostic
• conclusions
• theodicy
• Epicurean
• dilemma
• problem
• evil
• suffering
• God
• Omnipotent
• Omniscient
• Benign
• good
• indifferent
• nature
• atheism
• proselytizer
• atheist
• Free
• Will
• natural
• moral
• truth
• Adam
• Eve
• of
• and
• logical
• evidential
• probibilistic
• apologetics
• apologist
• theism
• theology
• epydemic2020
• toddallengates
• response
• re
• playlist
• yt:quality=high

[julzabro]

If evil was created by God...and the Book DOES say that's true....then u can NOT deduce that God is loving or NOT evil....not to mention the fact that this is contradicted throughout the Bible which also makes God a liar. I'm still not seeing how God and evil can both exist when considering the description of God from His iwn Doctrine!? Becuz as soon as u say ur God CAN exist with evil, u make Him a liar and u make Him UNpowerful.

[Epydemic2020]

@julzabro

Evil was not created by God. You can misunderstand and quote Isaiah if you want to tho.

I define omnipotent (as do almost all Christians) as the ability to do anything except the logically contradictory. There seems to exist morally justifiable reasons for allowing the potential for evil to exist.

[hanspshansen]

uhm, mayby it is something i dont understand, but it looks for me that you are concluding that the problem of evil is wrong, because something almigthy and god, cant exist, thit evil.

god can stil exist, but not as a being that is allgood, so the problem is stil working.

you can select between this solutions.

1 god is not allgood.

2 evil(suffering) does not exist

3 god is not real.

the shose of god is algood and almighty, and suffering exist, is stil impossible

[Epydemic2020]

@hanspshansen

I am arguing that God can be both good and suffering exist, hence my objection to the problem of evil.

As I have shown, the existence of God and suffering are not logically contradictory and that disproves the logical problem of evil.

I then explain why the evidential problem of evil is an argument from ignorance, and is not the best explanation of reality given the information that we have.

[mistahdbh408anon]

The point is not intelligent discussion about this, to be honest. You cannot have an intelligent discussion about this with a theist. The idea that the bible is a source of evidence that you can site for anything is a joke. It's like citing green eggs and ham as a food safety manual.

[Epydemic2020]

@mistahdbh408anon

Todd and I have had quite a few good intelligent discussions in the past. I do not argue by starting from the assumption that the Bible is true.

[bckilldz]

"Atheism of the gaps"

That is classic. But I suspect you will never understand the deep irony contained in such a statement.

[noproofforjesus]

No incorrect i said if a god exists and that god is the architect of you and plots out your life for you before you are in existence to god your chooses have been chosen a head of time since you don't exist yet. when you come to exist your chooses you make or free will is an illusion since your life is already written for you there is no way to avoid your fate. if a god doesn't exists your chooses are your own and they have no consequences other then here on earth in this life the only life.

[SleepingxWithxGhosts]

Even if evil and god can co-exist, that doesn't explain how you can worship a god that allows suffering.

[julzabro]

@Epydemic2020 k

[julzabro]

@Epydemic2020 Who needs Isaiah? YOU yourself define God as thee Creator of all things including evil...have u not? In fact, u made a big case for why God creating evil was necessary for free will! Furthermore, If God is omnipotent then He has the ability to eradicate or to have never created evil initially...right? So God is omnipotent until He seems to contradict Himself? How can u tell what is logically contradictory for a god while being human? And either ur omnipotent or ur not.

[julzabro]

that 2nd law of logic didn't makes sense...who is saying that's it's BOTH possible and impossible for god and evil to exist EXCEPT ur Holy Book??? IF ur Holy Book suggests, and it does more than suggest this, that god and evil can exist then it is your Holy Book which is defying the 2nd law.

[hanspshansen]

@Epydemic2020 i have seen that you hade i try about it, but i stil cant get it to work.

as i see it, its no free will problem if you codnt do evil thing, it woud be more limited, but still free will.

its a little strange that god cant avoid suffering on eart, but is no problem in heaven