Sedevacantism-the Novus Ordo Pt. 1

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In this Six Part Series I cover the 5 part video series that the Most Holy Family Monastery has released. In their video series they detail their position that the See of Peter is vacant(Sedevacantism in essence) and they reveal why they think the Novus Ordo-New Mass is invalid. In this series I throughly refute every single significant argument that they levy against the Catholic faith.

-William
Catholic Legate

The MHFM and their videos can be viewed here
http://www.youtube.com/mhfm1

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  • Novus Ordo or New Order, is part of the Judeo Masonic NEW WORLD ORDER..

    How one cannot reconcile the 2, I do not know.

    Vatican 2is apostacy, as is the NEW Mass.

    Occultist Luther said Change the Mass, Change the Faith and thats exactly what occurred.

  • @StSimonMartyr I think the Sedevacantist radicals that post refute themselves with their own posts. Instead of actually providing proof for arguments, Protestant sedes make false assumptions and toss out pejorative attacks. I suggest you study the Catholic faith before railing against it.

  • how is a pope who participates in Voodoo ceremonies a true pope? that makes no sense at all, not even a child would fall for that one...

  • Because the Pope never PARTICIPATED in the false worship of these individuals. This is tantamount to saying that any Pope of the past that committed sins therefore lost his office of the Papacy. Not even a monkey would fall for that one.

  • I go to an Episcopalian/Anglican church but I find this discussion interesting. I didn't know it wasn't simply aesthetics, but the belief that the sacraments were invalid. C.S. Lewis believed religion was the "good infection", an energetic understanding of grace as theosis, a change in a person towards holiness, with sacraments one possible means. However, I don't think most Catholics hold that view? It almost sounds like something binary, you either get grace, or you don't... correct?

  • Quite untrue. For example, a person attending Mass that does not partake of the Supper can and does still receive graces by merely praying and hoping to one day partake of the Sacrifice of the Mass.

    GOD BLESS

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  • we know what to make of it, its right in front of our faces, what we must do now is decide on how to correct the problem. The thought that scares me the most is that, when you look at the fact that this has been going on for 40+ years, that will their be any clergy left, to truly administer to the faith. we must pray the rosary and ask for guidance, it is the holy spirit that guides us. We must let it.

  • How misleading can the devil be? Vatican II william teaches you from refuting any religion, where have you been??? Your religion teaches in case you weren't aware accepts all the faiths and that you shouldn't question this. Your not following your Vatican II religion your a heretic within your own faith.... How long have you been Catholic? If you were Catholic for any length of time you would know something evil has been going on with out reading anything. Stop saying your Catholic please

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  • Long live the Traditional Latin Mass the and pope Benedict the XVI

  • @gnrhead, you're a joke! I watched about the first 3 minutes of your first vid. That's all it took. Right when when you claimed that the sedevacantist arguments hold no weight and that they were illogical sealed it up for me. Ha ha hahahaa!!! Well really though. It was your constantly needing to read your pc screen even to make those claims in your opening. MEAT HEAD!!! Lol

  • @gnrhead Instead of posting videos from the safety and comfort of your bedroom, why not challenge the Brothers of Most Holy Family Monastery to a debate. Allow it to be recorded, and posted so that you can prove everyone just how "logical" and "well researched" you really are on this subject? If you want to talk-the-talk, then I challenge you to walk-the-walk and debate the brothers and allow it to be recorded and posted. If you have done your research, you have nothing to fear.

  • Well, the Catholic Church has gone to Hell since Vatican II. Our Lady of Fatima warned about apostasy in the Church in high places. Walk into most Catholic parish churches today and you'll find a church with a Protestant-friendly Mass, altar girls, happy clappy rubrics, communion in hand, judical style vestments, a misplaced tabernacle and generally horrible and spartan church architecture. The Catholic Church has gone to hell. Let's be honest. Vatican II destroyed the Catholic Church.

  • You accept Nostra Aetate...that Jews and NOT Practicing Catholics are Now God's Chosen People

    This defies 1900 years of Church teaching and Christ's teaching.

    The Canon of the Mass was also changed, Christ's own words were altered. It is invalid and illicit.

  • We can only hope that God in his mercy that the Mass of Paul VI is valid. However, in Pius V papal bull Quo Primum - it was very clear the Mass was never to be changed as to not incur the wrath of almighty God and the holy apostles Peter and Paul. The promise of our Lord the gates of Hell shall not prevail meant there will be valid mass communities and faithful worshiping God in sacrifice with validly ordained priests. I do not believe our Lord guaranteed against anti-popes. As a lay Roman Cath

  • @Pilatocus28 The council, which is actually just a continuation of Vatican I did not issue any canonical decrees or definitions. That said, various 'pastoral' teachings of the council are blasphemous and heretical to the core. The best summary of the council is that it took one thousand pages to say what could be said in one.

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