[This is Dr Jacoby's cross-examination of Dr Shermer.]
The debate between international Christian speaker Douglas Jacoby and agnostic and skeptic Michael Shermer took place Saturday June 23, the h...
[This is Dr Jacoby's cross-examination of Dr Shermer.]
The debate between international Christian speaker Douglas Jacoby and agnostic and skeptic Michael Shermer took place Saturday June 23, the highlight of the 2007 International Apologetics Conference, sponsored by the Apologetics Research Society. The debate topic: Does God Exist?
Dr. Shermer is one of the three or four most famous atheist / agnostic scholars in the world, author of 12 books and President of the Skeptic Society. He has held dozens of debates, appeared on Oprah, 20/20, Dateline, Tom Snyder, Larry King Live and The History Channel. Dr. Jacoby, director of the Athens Institute of Ministry, has spoken in hundreds of cities in some 80 nations.
This exciting event was held before a packed house, with an overflow crowd watching close circuit monitors outside the venue. Kedron Jones (Board member of ARS) was moderator and affable host. Shermer and Jacoby both bring their best analytical skills to this debate. The interchange is lively, with both speakers willing to concede points made by their opponent. You will benefit greatly from weighing the arguments put forth. Douglas' clear and incisive arguments for the existence of God are persuasive. He argues from cosmology (both its creation and its complexity). and the unmistakable fact that moral absolutes are part of reality. Shermer makes the case that religions are socially constructed, historically dependent, and that the faith you adhere to and the god you believe in depend largely on when in history and where in the world you were born.
The two-hour debate is lively, engaging and instructional. You can watch each speaker's opening, rebuttal, rebuttal summary, and conclusion here at YouTube. For the entire debate in one DVD, however, including the 40+ minute Q&A session, please visit www.douglasjacoby.com. The Skeptics Society website is www.skeptic.com.
To post further comments, please visit Jacoby's forum at www.jacobyblogs.com.
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You're opinion on the first cause would only lead you to be a deist. How then do you infer that that this god of yours care if you eat pork products and who you sleep with and in which position I may add. Think before you say something. The heavens are empty and it shows. If you want to believe in Santa claus that's your bussiness. Just don't ask me to respect you for that.
I love when atheists use the flying spaghetti crap. HA HA like this is proof against a deity. Just because people in the past have given different names to the same creating force is totally irrelevant. I believe in a starting force of the universe, which i call GOD. Also infinite regress is foolish. If a GOD really exists is it not possible he exists in a way our feeble minds can't conceive. I would say of course because he is GOD!
2:40 VERY GOOD argument think about it that kind of thinking by Shremer (whom I like v. much), make everything questionable.. some1 can say his whole way of thinking is just a fruit of cultural environment
haha. i agree. but, you cannot prove that the flying spaghetti monster just as much as you cannot prove God cannot exist.
now, to state that they are lies....that is just ignorance. even Shermer did not stoop to this. because of your ignorance of the topic doesn't mean it is a lie.
i would agree that it is evidence for the flying spaghetti monster. but, you cannot prove the existence of the flying spaghetti monster just as much as you cannot disprove the existence of Yahweh.
now, it is not lies. even Shermer did not call Jacoby a liar. don't stoop to a degrading ignorance simply because knowledge is not understood does not mean it is a lie...it means it is not understood. give credit where credit is due...not too much, not too little.
o. ok. it's hard to tell sarcasm on a computer screen lol.
but...either or, i was just clearing things up for both sides of the coin....a religious man or an atheistic man that neither should stoop to such a degrading attribute.
....but then, we would have to define the standard of what "morality" is and where it comes from. lol
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VERY GOOD argument
think about it
that kind of thinking by Shremer (whom I like v. much), make everything questionable..
some1 can say his whole way of thinking is just a fruit of cultural environment
Nature, us, earth, love, hope, prayer etc. are evidence for The Flying Spaghetti Monster!
now, to state that they are lies....that is just ignorance. even Shermer did not stoop to this. because of your ignorance of the topic doesn't mean it is a lie.
now, it is not lies. even Shermer did not call Jacoby a liar. don't stoop to a degrading ignorance simply because knowledge is not understood does not mean it is a lie...it means it is not understood. give credit where credit is due...not too much, not too little.
Although some people will lie for Jebus.
but...either or, i was just clearing things up for both sides of the coin....a religious man or an atheistic man that neither should stoop to such a degrading attribute.
....but then, we would have to define the standard of what "morality" is and where it comes from. lol