John 1:1 Part 1

The translation and interpretation of this most disputed passage. Part 1 of 2.

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Education

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• Christology
• John 1:1
• Jesus
• Jehovah
• Bible
• New Testament.

[tonyschmoeredux]

Your visuals\graphics are superb. The content of you vid is too smart for me right now so I will have to play it again when I am feeling sharper.

[tonyschmoeredux]

Do you have a link for your stuff?

[CristoYcruz]

@pretoshohmoofc The father is timeless and spaceless, he is not a creation, which implies all creation nor Jesus can't cantian all that the father is. Therefore there was no one before him nor after him, for he was all that was, meaning nor was no creation, only him.

[CristoYcruz]

@pretoshohmoofc Time didn't start when Christ created all by his father's power who delegated(empower)Jesus to create all. Time started when Jesus was born before all, which necessitates space+time=dwelling place. So where was Jesus dwelling place at his birth before all? Christ as a man on earth was subject to time and space. Time, because he was born, which started his days(time) on earth. Space, because he inhabited it on earth, which contained him, not so with the father it can't contain him

[scripturaltruths]

@pretoshohmoofc please see the video.

[pretoshohmoofc]

@scripturaltruths ignoring the immediate context?

So Christ created himself did he?

[scripturaltruths]

 @pretoshohmoofc of course you are ignoring the immediate context.... But I'm not going to discuss this with you if you are unwilling to consider the evidence.

[pretoshohmoofc]

@scripturaltruths John 1:3 says, "All things came into being through him, and apart from him nothing came into being that has come into being." The Aposlte John even uses a double negative. "...and apart from him nothing came into being that has come into being."

That means EVERYTHING was created By Christ. This would include himself, which is absurd.

Solid Logic.

[scripturaltruths]

@pretoshohmoofc please see my videos on John 1:3 as that is simply not accurate.

[pretoshohmoofc]

@scripturaltruths Again, you are not litening to my argument. I stated that in Vs. 3 it tells us that Christ created all things. This would include Tme. Time =Past, Present and Future. If Christ created Past, this means that he predated Past. So Christ MUST be eternal. Christ came before Time.

[scripturaltruths]

@pretoshohmoofc By the context of my statement it should be clear I referred strictly to eternity past.

[pretoshohmoofc]

@scripturaltruths You said in your video, "he was in the world, well, the world is not eternal, So he couldn't have eternaly been in the world." Noone is saying "was" means eternal." Since Christ is not in the world now, when John wrote John 1:10, it is correct to say that his earth experience predated his present one in heaven today." "He was in the world." means that he no longer is in the world. Referring to his past. "He sits at his Father's side." Is in the present.