Homeopathic fraud exposed on ABC Lateline

It is amazing that a fraud as transparent as homeopathy can be accepted by people who can think. There is a word for a statement that homeopathy can replace chemotherapy for cancer, and that word is "lie". When are scientists going to stop being polite about this ridiculous waste of time, money and lives?

Lateline is at http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/

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• homeopathy
• fraud

[murdocha]

@oldspammer I'll humour you here, once. Kevin Trudeau is a convicted felon, having been charged with unauthorized use of at least 11 credit cards, posing as a doctor in committing larceny, operated an illegal pyramid scheme, made false and misleading statements in infomercials for mega-memory aids, baldness cures...

...shall I continue?

What is the upshot here? Kevin Trudeau is smart, and a huckster who will take any steps to make money off the ill and uninformed.

Back to homeopathy please...

[murdocha]

@oldspammer Oh, please stick to the subject here!

[murdocha]

@oldspammer Yes, some aspects unconventional therapies have been shown to work and they are called medicine. Non-drug therapies are investigated and, if found to work, are supported. This would explain physiotherapy.

Your bias against "science" and "mainstream medicine" is showing.

But, again, we're talking homeopathy here, so please stick to the subject.

[oldspammer]

@murdocha Trudeau was pushing coral calcium & vitamin D to fight chronic diseases.

If you check, you'll see that universities researching this have been finding the same things. YT Cq1t9WqOD-0 and TQ-qekFoi-o

It is not that there is no evidence, just evidence that some are foolish & unwilling to consider.

[oldspammer]

@murdocha Kevin Trudeau advertizes that there are alternatives to conventional medicine that "they don't want you to know about." He pushed vitamin & mineral supplements, and books that talk about unconventional therapies. His books try to get readers to subscribe to his web sites for additional information.

"World's greatest treasury of health secrets" by others attempts to expose health sciences not in wide spread application where vitamins, diet, mineral supplements can be used.

[oldspammer]

@murdocha Keep in mind too that, although these homeopathy dosages are highly likely to be ineffective, they are certainly as safe as drinking some water, and so are more safe than a synthetic concoction of poison meant to target disease, so the synthetic poisons, by law, have to pass safety trials before being approved for general use at prescribed dosages.

[oldspammer]

@murdocha "there are many"

If there was a lot of competition like 100 M companies producing highly profitable homeopathy doses, then one would expect competitive pricing to lower consumer costs, & drive out of business those unable to compete with "effective" medications?

So since neither is there large trillions to be made by each person, nor millions of companies producing, there is not the "spare" money that you claim that there is to spend on $100s of millions clinical trials.

[oldspammer]

@murdocha Have you have never encountered faked studies, or seen trickery in study patient selection, or trickery of providing conflicting medications / diet to cause study outcomes to be as desired by their behind the scenes sponsors?

Look up in PubMed via Google Diapulse OR (pulsed magnetic fields) ulcers

A fake Cochrane systematic review was done to stop the therapy--it was done by Nurses N Cullum, et al. in UK, & is cited on Wikipedia as "fake" proof of ineffectiveness.

[oldspammer]

@murdocha Two points are as follows:

(a) current science is less than candid about its investigation of non-drug therapies,

(b) if some aspect of non-mainstream medicine were found to work, those findings would not be publicized, & some contra-indicated, conflicting thing would be found & developed to trigger the promising therapy to be dangerous or ineffective, then those studies would be publicized.

For all we know some aspects of certain unconventional therapies do work fine.

[murdocha]

@oldspammer Hate to be undiplomatic here, but so what? This has no bearing on Homeopathy. Please stick to the topic at hand.