Cleveland Obama Healthcare Protest

The Cincinnati 9/12 Project and the Cincinnati Tea Party joined forces with the Cleveland 9/12 Project and Tea Party to protest Obamacare.

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[Cincinnati912Project]

I'm not sure about it being deductible. I need to check into more.  When you buy through a company, you pay more because some people have more expensive needs than others so you end up shouldering that cost. What I found out so far, is that it was very comparable. I need to do more research.

[TheDraekia]

How's that deductible, though? Or the exclusions? For that matter, is there a cap in coverage? Limit to almost no prescription coverage (or at the very least ridiculous co-pays)? Or do they hide those specifics by saying "X number of generics! Y number of brands! all included!" until you run into it...

I'll admit, I'm probably just cynical and that is why I don't trust most of the "cheaper alternatives." In the end, they *usually* end up not being. Congrats if yours is an exception, tho

[Cincinnati912Project]

I've been looking into buying insurance privately and have found it to be $100 cheaper a month than what we get through the company with comparable benefits. Check it out! I was amazed.

[TheDraekia]

I also appreciate the civil discussion, instead of simply hurling insults which is what I've seen in most of these discussions.

If only our leaders would attempt this maybe something useful would happen. I'm getting increasingly worried that all of this is going to be for naught however, and that the giant Cartel-like corporations have already made some sweetheart deals that will ravage us for generations to come.

[TheDraekia]

Tort reform is needed, I grew up in the great state of many many many lawyers (California) and lawsuits over everything, so tort reform seems a no-brainer to me.

That being said, taking the onus off of employers would mean either somehow individuals would have to fund the dif, or the govt would -- but with the govt trough being offered, I'm very wary how high private insurers would hike rates.

I am honestly amazed that those ideas aren't the ones being discussed first.

PS Charactr limits suck

[Cincinnati912Project]

I think people have offered solutions. Tort reform being one. Getting employers out of providing insurance. It has ended up costing more through employers and driven competition way down. If people shopped for insurance like they do for their car, prices would drop. Allow people to buy insurance across state lines. I know people smarter than I am have more solutions.

Thank you for talking to me peacefully. We need to be able to do this!

[TheDraekia]

To be honest: I'm not assuming any of that, I simply have seen the current system fail miserably in a great many instances and wish to see it reformed.

I think I've said before that I'm open to all ideas that can improve our system - I really wish the "opposition" side of this "debate" would bother to offer some. No, tax-cuts and promising no regulation isn't the way to go - that worked wonderfully for banks, after all.

[Cincinnati912Project]

I have dealt with insurance companies. Many times. My dad recently had prostate cancer and very quickly got the surgery he needed and is mostly recovered. Would he have gotten that surgery as quickly or at all under this healthcare plan?

Assuming that the government is altruistic is crazy to me.

[Cincinnati912Project]

Well I hope you're right.

[Cincinnati912Project]

The women in Great Britain who were denied pap smears. Which is a simple, routine procedure here, was denied to them. There was an article in the WSJ back in July.

"Speaking to the American Medical Association last month, President Obama waxed enthusiastic about countries that "spend less" than the U.S. on health care. He's right that many countries do, but what he doesn't want to explain is how they ration care to do it."