@sihtekilsdrawkcabmi Please, go deep in this "homosexuality wave" around the world to find out why people are promoting this behavior. You would be surprised if you knew that all homosexuals are being used by (very rich) people with another kind of interests. Do you think those who promote homosexuality care about you? Do you think they love you? I bet you think so, but I repeat that you are instruments to a nasty cause: population control by a few powerful people. This has been a nice talk.
@sihtekilsdrawkcabmi Since you agree that mere Relativism is false (as a matter of fact, it is the destruction of any possibility of knowledge), I hope that you will some day understand why so many people oppose to homosexuality (not to homosexual people). I am one of them, I respect you and I don't accept the idea of being compared to a racist (another false argument, because in varied races around the world people also agree that homosexuality is against the continuity of human species).
@feanando idea is likely to cause confusion. Though specifics are even more perplexing, because then you must discuss the several specifics underlying the cause of stereotype.
Debate is not my strong point. I don't even know why I took up this conversation. xD Haha, sorry if I make for a fairly uninteresting conversation. I merely wanted to get across that gender isn't bullshit.
@feanando Pedophilia is considered wrong, but why? I'm not saying that I think it's alright, but don't circumstances come into play at this point? Love?
3) People like this are selfish and intolerant. I can see their motive, but going about justifying it in this mannor is completely unreasonable. Getting people to accept things like homosexuality will be virtually impossible. Some people even today are still racist.
All things aside, stereotypes are highly debatable. Conversing on a single
@feanando 1) Relativism- belief in changeable standards: the belief that concepts such as right and wrong, goodness and badness, or truth and falsehood are not absolute but change from culture to culture and situation to situation
I very much agree with you on this point. Relativism is false. But there is also the idea of greater and lesser evils.
2) Yes, one /can/ be mistaken in one's own conception. That is why there are criminals. But the idea of right and wrong is very "iffy."
@feanando Ideology- system of social beliefs: a closely organized system of beliefs, values, and ideas forming the basis of a social, economic, or political philosophy or program
I just looked this word up. Unfortunately, I seemed to have used it in the wrong sense earlier. Conformity is almost as bad as being a "hipster." It's almost as bad as being homophobic or heterophobic. Extremes are usually never good in either case.
Drawing from that, I'd like to respond to your points. Damn YouTube.
@feanando I just want equality. No favor in any other direction. People should be allowed to be themselves regardless. That's all I'm saying.
And yes, there certainly are those who are misguided in their ideals, but it's the better's duty to enlighten those who are ignorant to what justice and freedom truly are. But gender is not propoganda. How one defines one's own self is for that one to decide.
Aside from that, I'm both a feminist and a homosexual. Just thought I'd say.
@sihtekilsdrawkcabmi word, but "respecting" ideology and propaganda against the very human nature is not only naive but also a disservice to mankind. I have done some research on this subject, and frankly I will never respect selfish ideologies and idiosyncrasies from selfish people that distort truth to obtain personal benefits; I owe respect to honest people that humbly recognize truth, even if truth sometimes appears as a heavy burden.
@sihtekilsdrawkcabmi Besides, I quite agree with you that a person's conception of themself is varied; that is precisely my point: (1) relativism is false (=not all conceptions are valid); (2) one can be mistaken in this self conception (=some choices are simply wrong and act against humanity); (3) there are people very interested in misleading people in the pursuit of their very identity BECAUSE they want to socially justify their own (sexual, in this case) behavior. "Respect" is a wonderful
@sihtekilsdrawkcabmi Please, go deep in this "homosexuality wave" around the world to find out why people are promoting this behavior. You would be surprised if you knew that all homosexuals are being used by (very rich) people with another kind of interests. Do you think those who promote homosexuality care about you? Do you think they love you? I bet you think so, but I repeat that you are instruments to a nasty cause: population control by a few powerful people. This has been a nice talk.
feanando 4 months ago
@sihtekilsdrawkcabmi Since you agree that mere Relativism is false (as a matter of fact, it is the destruction of any possibility of knowledge), I hope that you will some day understand why so many people oppose to homosexuality (not to homosexual people). I am one of them, I respect you and I don't accept the idea of being compared to a racist (another false argument, because in varied races around the world people also agree that homosexuality is against the continuity of human species).
feanando 4 months ago
@feanando idea is likely to cause confusion. Though specifics are even more perplexing, because then you must discuss the several specifics underlying the cause of stereotype.
Debate is not my strong point. I don't even know why I took up this conversation. xD Haha, sorry if I make for a fairly uninteresting conversation. I merely wanted to get across that gender isn't bullshit.
sihtekilsdrawkcabmi 4 months ago
@feanando Pedophilia is considered wrong, but why? I'm not saying that I think it's alright, but don't circumstances come into play at this point? Love?
3) People like this are selfish and intolerant. I can see their motive, but going about justifying it in this mannor is completely unreasonable. Getting people to accept things like homosexuality will be virtually impossible. Some people even today are still racist.
All things aside, stereotypes are highly debatable. Conversing on a single
sihtekilsdrawkcabmi 4 months ago
@feanando 1) Relativism- belief in changeable standards: the belief that concepts such as right and wrong, goodness and badness, or truth and falsehood are not absolute but change from culture to culture and situation to situation
I very much agree with you on this point. Relativism is false. But there is also the idea of greater and lesser evils.
2) Yes, one /can/ be mistaken in one's own conception. That is why there are criminals. But the idea of right and wrong is very "iffy."
sihtekilsdrawkcabmi 4 months ago
@feanando Ideology- system of social beliefs: a closely organized system of beliefs, values, and ideas forming the basis of a social, economic, or political philosophy or program
I just looked this word up. Unfortunately, I seemed to have used it in the wrong sense earlier. Conformity is almost as bad as being a "hipster." It's almost as bad as being homophobic or heterophobic. Extremes are usually never good in either case.
Drawing from that, I'd like to respond to your points. Damn YouTube.
sihtekilsdrawkcabmi 4 months ago
@feanando I only received your first message. Please excuse the lack of retort for a moment.
sihtekilsdrawkcabmi 4 months ago
@feanando I just want equality. No favor in any other direction. People should be allowed to be themselves regardless. That's all I'm saying.
And yes, there certainly are those who are misguided in their ideals, but it's the better's duty to enlighten those who are ignorant to what justice and freedom truly are. But gender is not propoganda. How one defines one's own self is for that one to decide.
Aside from that, I'm both a feminist and a homosexual. Just thought I'd say.
sihtekilsdrawkcabmi 4 months ago
@sihtekilsdrawkcabmi word, but "respecting" ideology and propaganda against the very human nature is not only naive but also a disservice to mankind. I have done some research on this subject, and frankly I will never respect selfish ideologies and idiosyncrasies from selfish people that distort truth to obtain personal benefits; I owe respect to honest people that humbly recognize truth, even if truth sometimes appears as a heavy burden.
feanando 4 months ago
@sihtekilsdrawkcabmi Besides, I quite agree with you that a person's conception of themself is varied; that is precisely my point: (1) relativism is false (=not all conceptions are valid); (2) one can be mistaken in this self conception (=some choices are simply wrong and act against humanity); (3) there are people very interested in misleading people in the pursuit of their very identity BECAUSE they want to socially justify their own (sexual, in this case) behavior. "Respect" is a wonderful
feanando 4 months ago