MoonFaker: Phil Plait, Mythbusters & Dirty Tricks. PART 3

For years, Bad Astronomy webmaster Phil Plait has dodged the following questions.

1. How can you allege that the idea that NASA and the government would murder their own astronauts is "a particularly loathsome accusation", when in fact the CIA's General William H. Craig came up with Operation Dirty Trick: a proposal to blame John Glenn's possible death aboard Friendship 7 on the Cubans and use his death to justify all out war?

2. How can you frequently allege that Bill Kaysing said "any kind of space travel is impossible", when in the exact same interview that you refer to Kaysing explicitly says "I will concede that certain unmanned vehicles might have made it to the moon. The Russians are supposed to have sent some unmanned vehicles to the moon. And possibly our Surveyor did land on the moon."?

3. How can you allege that there were no major solar flares during the Apollo missions when NOAA's Comprehensive Flare Index for Major Flares explicitly logs 30 major x-ray solar flares during the time eight of those missions were supposedly in cislunar space?

In today's episode, I meet Phil Plait (and Adam Savage) face to face at TAM8. This was indeed an Amazing Meeting to remember!

OPERATION DIRTY TRICK
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axCbl6-vh8w

Bill Kaysing interview
($1,000,000 dollars to anyone who can find me a section where Kaysing denied the possibility of all space travel)
http://www.nardwuar.com/vs/bill_kaysing/index.html

NOAA's Comprehensive Flare Index for Major Flares
ftp://ftp.ngdc.noaa.gov/STP/SOLAR_DATA/SOLAR_FLARES/FLARES_INDEX/McMath/CFI55_80­.TXT

MORE PROVEN LIES BY PHIL PLAIT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvXYzRgnJO

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[MrNeptunebob]

Jarrah, you must have a thick skin. It bothered me just to hear that Phil guy talk down to you. 

[WhiteJarrah]

@MrNeptunebob "Jarrah, you must have a thick skin. It bothered me just to hear that Phil guy talk down to you."

He also tried to intimidate me with his height. I'm about 5'5", he's at least 6'3". When he refused the interview he also gave me a look that says "I'm taller so that makes me better than you". I'm not so easily intimidated.

[Europasingstome]

Yeah, Jarrah, you pretty much heckled both of them. Most of what you did, I believe is a tactic called "Ambush journalism". If the tone in your voice wasn't bad enough, you insisted that they both answer your questions.

I believe only the people gullible enough to follow you will find this as proof that these men are liars.

[WhiteJarrah]

@Europasingstome "I believe only the people gullible enough to follow you will find this as proof that these men are liars."

In that case would you be so kind as to do what Plait has refused to do for years: show me where Bill Kaysing said "any space travel is impossible" as Plait alleges.

[Europasingstome]

@WhiteJarrah I wouldn't know. I'm not a follower of Plait's work, and the first time I had heard of Kaysing is when I watched your videos.

But hasn't factored in that the guy might have made a mistake? Maybe misread a quote of Kaysing?

[WhiteJarrah]

@Europasingstome "But hasn't factored in that the guy might have made a mistake?"

Doubtful. Plait SPECIFICALLY refers to the interview on Nardwaur radio. In his blog about Kaysing's death, Plait writes: "he was still wrong, and made claims that are sickening (NASA killed the Apollo 1 astronauts to keep them quiet; NASA blew up Challenger on purpose to keep the astronauts quiet about the “fact” that space travel is impossible"

[WhiteJarrah]

@Europasingstome

CONTINUED.

A link to the interview in question is in the sidebar. No where does Kaysing claim that space travel is impossible and in fact he specifically says unmanned lunar probes possibly did go to the moon. Possible is the opposite of impossible.

[ReturnofPmtmr]

You claim the anti moon hoax people never offer proof to back up there claims that's not true.

You were trying to monopolize the guy. There were many people who wanted to talk to him not just you.

Here we are with the star thing again. You Moon hoax people always say the same stuff. Listen you would not see stars with bright daylight reflection off things, your pupils would be too small. You obviously aren't a photographer! Try shooting stars with a narrow shutter opening.

[MadHighway]

Armstrong was on the moon; Plait wasn't.

[MadHighway]

Kaysing quote Part I

"How 'bout any actual atmosphere, like John Glenn in space, Yuri Gargarin - were they actually in space?"

"I doubt it."

[MadHighway]

Kaysing quote Part II

"So the Soviet Union faked that Yuri Gargarin was in space, and that dog that died, Laika, really didn't die?"

"Mmm...I don't think he was up there. See, there was a fellow by the name of Lloyd Mallin in the early '70s who wrote a very detailed book saying that all - well, nearly all - possibly all of the Soviet space exploits were faked, and he proved it with photographs and technical data and so forth. I still have a copy of that book."

[MadHighway]

@WhiteJarrah

Yes you are easily intimidated. You gibbered your way through your great moment with Neil Armstrong. You are a pathetic and uneducated paranoid waste case.

[MadHighway]

Funny that you could use the word "astronaut" when you're talking about yourself, but you couldn't say "astronaut" when talking about the those others who ACTUALLY went into space. You didn't read what Plait said verbatim--you left stuff out. Wow.

Plait summed up your mental condition perfectly.

[MadHighway]

White, you're an undiagnosed paranoid schizophrenic.

[Laurelindo]

@WhiteJarrah People are tired of you annoying hoaxers, because all you do is complaining and accusing innocent and courageous people of lying.

Someone who is so stupid that he believes a president would risk getting murdered by the entire New York City for arranging 9/11 is not worth any respect at all.