Wing Chun - Advanced Chi Gerk Concepts w Sifu Tom Chi

Like chi sau, chi gerk is an absolute science as well as an art that respects physics. In this video we discuss proper form for training, distancing, angles, contact, etiquette, foot changes and walking in chi gerk and more.

These concepts are the reason Ving Tsun/Wing Chun are so effective. If it's too much for you skip the vids, keep your hands up, growl and scratch your head over why we spend our time with such complicated exercises.

Or, rise to the occassion, learn the physics, play the art and develop Master-Level kung fu.

If you'd like to open a school and teach this rare gem: Moy Yat Ving Tsun Kung Fu, contact me about periodic visits to the home school in the Catskill Mountains of New York.

Best wishes,
Sifu Tom Chi
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• chi gerk
• chi gurk
• advanced Ving Chun
• Wing Chun
• Tom Chi
• kung fu
• Moy Yat
• fighting
• muk yan jong

[Jeruwalter]

if someone asked me whether I'd prefer to deal with both arms of my opponent or to deal with only a single arm of my opponent I'd say I'd prefer only to worry about one arm and remain "inaccessible" to the other, if you ask me that makes more sense, and even a "seasoned" WC practitioner can fall victim from any such strategy whom is equally(or more) skilled then they are

[heartslord]

@Jeruwalter

I personally don't allow "preset" footwork or techniques. Everything happens according to what is present in the moment. WC allows both hands for use at all times. You can deflect the opp no prob and he will turn or pass you. If you don't follow him with your CL then it's not WC. It's that simple. Sounds like you have great effect with your techniques and that's great. Won't work on me or any of the great players I know. You have MORE when you use WC physics, less when you don't.

[WildfireXT]

Fantastic explanation on how to practice chi gerk....

You usually have to pay money to learn stuff this in-depth... hats off to your generosity.

That said, chi gerk isn't something that's possible to learn or even understand to people without adequate foundation and chi sau training, so I guess this nugget of wisdom is truly for advanced students. It's ironic how many seek for truly advanced techniques and don't recognize it when they see it.

[gigagroove]

Great video, thanks I'm def loving the logic, physics and energy.

[Volgeblanc]

I`d like to thank you for uploading these videos. I had the opportunity to train with Sifu Moy Yat (R.I.P). I´m well impressed with all the info you shared. Early stages of Chi Gerk are building blocks for future and superior skills in fighting. Thanks.

[Jeruwalter]

and also even though the footwork is "preset" it doesn't mean that its not flexible, its actually extremely flexible, from my own experience with 50/50 weight distribution you have instantaneous access to each and every one of your movements or foot position at all times, while the 30/70 ratio you would have to shift the wait back to the front leg in order to change your position and stance which occupies precious milli-seconds within the fight which you'd be wasting, i don't have that issue..

[heartslord]

@Jeruwalter

Right. Which is the opposite of what you said and what the vid you sent demonstrated. You and in the vid, called for turning the upper body and losing both hand presentation. Also, you can't assume your opponent is an idiot who only knows how to use one hand. He may continue to use both and may have strong Doy Ying as well as Chung Chi forward motion. So let's train to a higher level than we'll need.

Let's start a new discussion on another topic. I enjoyed your thoughts and ideas.

[Jeruwalter]

but if your at the side of your opponent, controlling his centerline is no longer an issue because your in a position thats "out of reach" from him while he(the opponent) on the other hand is subjected to your every whim, so yes your right the center line IS where all the action is and where all your opponent's attacks come from, so I'd say make yourself inaccessible to the centerline of your opponent while making the opponent himself in perfect range, control and reach of YOUR centerline...

[heartslord]

@Jeruwalter

The physics portion is covered around second form with the Doy Ying training to teach never to be pulled or moved off your CL as well as learning to contain or release depending on what is thrown at to enable you to completely control the center (where the action is!). Learning how to allow and enforce others bouncing off your CL & ending up turned or otherwise disabled. This is basic WC theory, no turning off the CL, no disabling one hand unecessarily. Again, appreciate your ideas

[Jeruwalter]

@heartslord

but the approach I suggested DOESN'T involve running around the opponent, the footwork used is already "pre-set" to step diagonally on a 45 degree angle, and the tactical advantages are that the center line is facing away from the opponent leaving the torso and groin covered, while both hands remain equidistant

with that said, how would the approach I prefer is considered "throwing the entire physics of what makes Wing Chun exist and what makes it so great" out the window?