The Redemption of Zion, pt 1

Various topics concerning the redemption of Zion

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[artbulla]

The kingdom of God circumscribes the Church, said the Lord.

[awolLDSasap]

Answerman is like most Brighamites, full of pride and always casting the first stone.

Art, you don't look like a mormon, clean cut and towing the party line.

Too bad for answerman. He thinks his stick is bigger but in reality has no power at all.

The RLDS had the same power and authority and rejected by the Brighamites. They hated Emma and her church.

[artbulla]

Emma hated Joseph Smith and despise the Brigham Young. The woman has no authority to establish any church. At the death of Joseph Smith the first presidency was disorganized, therefore, Sidney Rigdon had no authority. Brigham Young and the 12 obtained the keys of the kingdom of God (political) in connection with the Council of 50. I have quotes establishing all this from Joseph Smith himself.

[mormonanswerman]

The Lord ALREADY called his prophet with Joseph Smith, and the prophets and apostles after have all been called in the proper order. What order were you called in? The Lord's house is a house of order, but you are not even in the same loop? What does this mean? False prophets are called outside of the loop already established. Don't say Brigham Young is a true prophet, and then call yourself a prophet too, because that doesn't make ANY sense at all.

[artbulla]

Another prophecy from Brigham Young: "Brethren this Church shall be led on to the very brink of hell by the leaders of this people, then God will raise of the One Mighty and Strong spoken of to save and redeem it." Brigham Young, Provo Bowry, attested to by Joshua Jones, John W. Wooley, and Joseph Musser.

[dasnasdi]

mormonanswerman, the succession crisis following the death of the prophet was hardly an orderly event.

I feel both you and Art Bulla are both guilty of the same error: believing in the concept known as "continuing revelation".

Why can't people realize that we had a true prophet on the earth until he died in 1844, and since that date, there has not been a true prophet on the earth. God did not send a continuous line of prophets in ancient times, so why would today be any different?

[artbulla]

5 And he had hope to shake me from the faith, notwithstanding the many revelations and the many things which I had seen concerning these things; for I truly had seen angels, and they had ministered unto me. And also, I had heard the voice of the Lord speaking unto me in very word, from time to time; wherefore, I could not be shaken. (Jacob 7:4-5)

[artbulla]

DC 43 says "if he abide in me". Mixing with the black race of Cain is not "abiding" in the Lord, fool. Breaking the Abrahamic covenant is not "abiding" in the Lord. Mixing with cain caused Eldred G. Smith (Patriarch) to resign. He did not know the tribe to put Cain in, fool. The Seventy are apostles. "The Twelve are to call upon the seventy instead of any others..." DC 107 The Lord revealed that to me in 1979 the day John Singer was killed over this issue. I have written much more on this.

[artbulla]

Let this Church which is called the Kingdom of God on the earth; we will summons the First Presidency, the Twelve, the High Council, the Bishopric, and all the Elders of Israel, and here declare that it is right to mingle our seed with the black race of Cain, that they shall come in with us and be partakers with us of all the blessings God has given to us. ...the Priesthood is taken from this Church... Brigham Young; Feb. 5, 1852) Priesthood not to be taken from earth, went somewhere. Here.

[artbulla]

Quite possible. You last comment I do not follow.