Is God the author of Sin? RE: Dear John Calvin

God is not the author of sin but still remains in control of the universe.

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[SamiasCaesar]

Does this also imply that God could ordain your fall from grace, or, worse yet, that God could place a stumbling block in your path that compels you to adopt a life of sin? So, God is a deceiver? God is Lucifer?

[JoelTheCalvinist]

@SamiasCaesar - The Bible does say that God deceives people so that they will incur judgment. That is, causes them to believe what is false so that they will be punished for their sins. This does not make God Lucifer (who isn't in the Bible btw, just a bad translation).

[GBFNorwalk]

You bank on Gods sovereignty over mans responsibility for no other reason than not to be responsible for sinning from a truly free will. This is merely an excuse and an attempt to blame God for your evil. Yes God in the Calvinism you hold to is the author of evil when taken to its theological conclusion.

[JoelTheCalvinist]

@GBFNorwalk - I guess you know me better than I do. Thanks for the encouragement, brother. God bless.

[SamiasCaesar]

@JoelTheCalvinist Okay, I'll call him the Evil One. I better keep an eye out for one of God's deceptions. It all makes sense, though. Only a loving God would delude my moral judgement so that I must reap the consequences of something that transpired beyond my will, inevitably casting my soul into the eternal flames of hell. All for God's loving and divine plan, right? I sure do love narrow interpretations of scripture! I think I might go stone some children to death for disobeying their elders.

[rofyle]

@Ruddermanspeaks There is only one thing that can make a person acceptable to God. It only needed to be done once. THAT IS WHY THOSE TO WHOM IT IS APPLIED CAN NEVER FALL AWAY! Or in other words, if it were possible for one to fall away, it would be impossible to renew them again to repentance, BECAUSE THERE IS ONLY ONE WORK THAT MAKE A PERSON ACCEPTABLE TO GOD!!

[rofyle]

@Ruddermanspeaks What I find shameful is the fact you can't read passages in their context. Of course it is impossible to renew them again, simply because it is impossible for them to fall away. THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT OF HEB. 10:1-2!!!! If there were anything we could do to make ourselves acceptable to God, we would only need to do it once, for it would have sufficed to have made us perfect forever. The fact you continually repent PROVES THAT YOUR REPENTANCE CAN NEVER MAKE YOU ACCEPTABLE!

[Ruddermanspeaks]

@rofyle what a shame that you would so lust to be apart of an evil man's system of theology that you would willfully curse yourself by willfully attempting to twist God blessed and Holy word. Where else will you find life if you trash and hold the Word in contempt?YOU KNOW that it clearly says that it is impossible to "renew them again to repentance" not "impossible for them to fall away".they that do such, crucify the Lord afresh(figuratively as in Heb1029)and put Him to an open shame(POSSIBLE)

[rofyle]

@Ruddermanspeaks Of Hebrews 6:4-6, I will say that I think a certain somebody needs to consider the word "impossible." It is impossible for them to fall away. That's the point. Because if they could fall away, then their return would mean crucifying Christ again. Again, Scripture must be interpreted in the light of Scripture. John 6:39 - And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day.