Vladimir Sofronitsky plays Scriabin Poème-nocturne Op. 61

Alexander Scriabin - Poème-nocturne Op. 61

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Music

Tags:

• sofronitsky
• scriabin
• poeme
• nocturne
• piano
• classical

[georgecziffra]

That piano sounds way out of tune.

[truecrypt]

and it is! Many of Sofronitsky's recordings were made in poor conditions with cheap equipment...

I remember those pianos ;)

Probably digital tricks could fix some problems, but I'm afraid it can kill something very important... I think our imagination can *filter* through these obstacles.

[FliegendeHollaender]

@truecrypt

I love the effect, but what do you mean you remember them? :)

[truecrypt]

@FliegendeHollaender

Oh, I've known those old pianos so well! ;)

I also remember old (and beaten up) Bechstein in Scriabin museum.

Many Sofronitsky's recordings were made on that particular piano.

[pkarkivist]

that piece was played on scriabin's piano...!!!

[pjioayncoe]

You misunderstood me. It's not "someone's subjective perception" that heals, but his/her "subjective conception." I think we all can "feel bad" physically, but how we let it affect us depends on how we conceptualize it. Therefore, a "subjective conception" does not alter a perception. Also, to heal a mind/soul means to change how a person thinks, not how he actually senses. The former is the conceptualized form of the latter. So a "subjective experience" is only our processed form of reality.

[guirlandes3]

@pkarkivist Actually, no, it was not recorded on Scriabin's Bechstein.. It was in fact recorded on another Bechsteitn at the Scriabin Museum in Moscow, that belonged to Sofronitsky himself.

[LiradeTerpsichore]

"to have had"

[LiradeTerpsichore]

Pjioayncoe

Really, did Ayn Rand say that?

That's very special.

Extraordinary. All the great classics missed her and would have been happy to have such an idea before her.

[pjioayncoe]

I'm glad that you agreed to use reason and logic to examine and analyze. Like Ayn Rand said, have an active mind that questions and decides, not an open mind that absorbs blindly and doubts. Only through rational reasoning can the truth be found. Thanks for this discussion. Bye.

[clipwip]

You seem to have missed the point. Hypnotism of course takes quite a bit of training. In the same way, one can train the mind through meditation to perceive things more subtly and in-depth. Reason and logic are also a result of conditioning and not some innate set of rules in the human mind. When you examine things closer and closer, the parameters of course change as in quantum mechanics and relativity. This conversation is becoming rather pointless and redundant. Farewell pjioayncoe..

[pjioayncoe]

Not true. We are.

[pjioayncoe]

I agree that it's easy to hypnotize people since many of us have abandoned reason and rely on others' judgement instead. We are tools to each other and victims of each other. Unfortunately , most of us are even slaves to each other. The relationship between reality and perception is rather simple, since we have no choice over it. If we can think logically on ourselves, conception is also very "straightforward". Only contradictions add to the "complexity".