Inapplicable Analogies & Inalienable Rights

Responding to inapplicable analogies and unjustifiable majoritary imposed suffering
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=0XiDhmfnGrE

Watch this for Inmendham's views on VR and sterilisation http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn7bQl8XnBg

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Nonprofits & Activism

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• inmendham
• virtual
• reality
• democracy
• majoritarianism
• suffering
• sustainability

[SuperiorMind]

I guess in order to address the overpopulation/sustainability problem, we'd need to agree to some offspring limitation tactic - ie: maybe a limiting allowed offspring and free birth control issued after. Producing excessive offspring would need to prevented somehow. Any ideas of how to do this? The alternative - potentially overpopulation, resource/food-shortage, supply-demmand probs, economic collapse, unsustainability, starvation, disease, war, etc.

[ballyboneman]

I'm not being facetious here but we really need to look at the facts before we should even consider taking any draconian measures. The population is not expected to increase exponentially in some Star Trek - Mark of Gideon style way. The population is expected to plateau at around 9 billion by the end of the century and fertility rates are dropping all over the world even in developing countries. We need to take sustainability seriously and the west must change its lifstyle expectations.

[bcj999]

I'm thinking that Gary is being very narrow minded on suffering. Lets say a woman wanted to have kids but Gary's policies sterilized her instead. To her and any observer with half a brain could realize that amounts to suffering. There is the whole aspect of emotional/psychological harming someone. But according to Gary if there's no physical pain then it's not suffering.

[ballyboneman]

It all seems a bit contradictory and confused not to mention disturbing.

[cozmikzen]

i think you are talking to a brick way. inmendham is incapable of learning, and he doesnt value human life,...let alone rights.

[ballyboneman]

He seems to be a huge contradiction.

[KamikazeKoscki]

Writ of Mandate with case law suggest yes! Prop 8 is now being argue in our State Supreme court in California over ones moral rights.

[KamikazeKoscki]

Is everyone entitled to health care, food stamps, Disability payments, workers compensation, a job, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

[KamikazeKoscki]

statutory rights) are rights conveyed by a particular polity, codified into legal statutes by some form of legislature, and as such are contingent upon local laws, customs, or beliefs. Natural rights are thus necessarily universal, whereas legal rights are culturally and politically relative.

[KamikazeKoscki]

make a distinction between natural and legal rights. Natural rights (also called moral rights or inalienable rights) are rights which are not contingent upon the laws, customs, or beliefs or a particular society or polity. In contrast, legal rights (sometimes also called civil rights or

[SuperiorMind]

I think it's leveling off in some places and 1 child policy has helped reduce overcrouded conditions in China. Thing that worries me is if we can't meet new energy needs quickly enough - mass production and distribution to keep world economy afloat, it is seeming more and more likely to me that we are already a couple billion beyond sustainability. In the event of economic catastrophe - the population will be consequently decrease. I agree - changing lifestyle and tech quickly is necessary.

[CousinoMacul]

I'm not sure I want to watch his response to this, but I'll start and see how far I get.

[cehbeach]

The other reason that the Mary Mallon comparison fails is that there wasn't an election(or ballot measure) to quarantine her, nor was there an act passed by the legislature. It was done by a government agency *after* Mallon had her day in court and the judge ruled in the governments favor. Her rights (especially due process) were held intact during the whole procedure.