generor test 11 engine running on hho

another video up, and more to come once I start to compile them. All the following tests were done with the same cell setup, 2 cells at 36 plates 6"x6", 3/8 hose ran from cell to res, from res to dryer #1, to dryer #2 at engine, and only the last 2" of tube was reduced to 1/4 tubing, the torch was using a .025 mig tip.

Rough synopsis:

1st test setup, removed all metering jets from gasoline carb, routed hho into normal gasoline input, routed crank case vent to manifold vacuum. covered carb intake. The carb intake was allowing hho to escape, and too much air in which leaned out the hho mix. The amount of injected hho could only handle the amount of air coming in from the crank case. If I had more hho I would have had to open the carb up at higher rpm. Running hho through the carb worked but not great, it was too leaky and too restrictive to flow much.
PROBLEMS: hho back filled the crank case, which would be fine if you allows turn the engine spark off and purged the system before starting it. I didn't once and the hho in crank case was set off from a lean condition. Luckily I was wearing my body armor otherwise I would have a pretty good mark on my side. The oil filler cap was shot out deflecting off my side, and went 60' across the street.
RECOMMENDATIONS: don't try this, a crank vent is good, but a pcv valve should be used, and a sealed carb with a crank case connection should not be used.

2ND test setup,
Hho injected into intake manifold, crank case open air vented, synopsis: undecided from this test, ssc's test was very successful though.
Problems: manifold vacuum collapsed hho tube
Recommendations, this test still needs to be done successfully to collaborate with ssc, but a rigid tube needs to be used to keep from vacuum collapsing it.

3RD test setup,
hho injeccted with torch, torch was placed in a 2' long 3/4" dia. copper tube to keep torch flame from hitting carb in event of backfiretube was pushed into carb as sealed as possible, fair seal 95%. Crank case vented to intake manifold.Engine didn't run.
Problems, it seems that the long tube didn't draft enough hho into the engine.
Recommendations, not to use this method.

4TH test setup
hho injected into carb with torch, crank case vented intake intake manifold. The specific direction the torch was placed made a large difference, if I directed the torch to the tiny crack of the throttle butterfly, the engine ran fine, if the torch was directed any other place(ie to center of butterfly, to axle point of butterfly, etc.) it did not run well if at all. with this setup the engine ran for approx. 3-3.5 hrs, from 13amp down to 9.5amps at 115v ac (retified to dc approx. dc volts 146) the only reason the engine stopped running is I ran out of water in the cell to keep the production up. The cell was about 160* and it produced a huge amount of steam, that steam was a good percentage of the total volume coming from the cell (maybe up to 1/3) the temp of the hho expanded the gas into a much less dense version of itself, which means I was not injecting very much pure hho. After a few hours the tubing condensed the steam into water in the tubing, and was passing liquid water into the engine, this did not seem to effect the engine at the amounts that was going into it, ie it did not stumble when water went in. There was a puddle below the carb at about 2-2.5 hrs into the test. exhaust was cool, so much so I could put my finger into the tail pipe without discomfort. Engine temp is on videos that are soon to be posted. Rpm is unknown right now, but approx. from a fair tuned ear, 1200 at 13 amps, down to very low maybe 400 at 9.5 amps, very very very low idle is possible with hho. Inspected spark plug, it was dry and very clean, a nice golden color to it. no real evidence of carbon.
Problems, possiblity of torching your carb if a backfire ignites the torch, I did it last week almost cut the choke butterfly in half before I got to it (3-4 seconds)
Recommendations, for observed testing this is a good method for running engines, its simple and it works very well. with no mods to engine needed.

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[regiomontano50]

muy buen comiencen  saludos

[d3adp001]

@regiomontano50 gracias

[parrishstuckey1]

It sound like its knocking are is that just the video? Being that HHO has a faster eginition than gas do you think that by adjusting the valves so they dont stay open as long would help?

[d3adp001]

@parrishstuckey1 thats just audio artifacts, there wasnt any knocking.

[parrishstuckey1]

Retard the timing

[d3adp001]

@parrishstuckey1 its not the timing.

[regiomontano50]

feliz año mi hermano un saludos para ustedy su famili desde mexico espero que este año 2012 lo llene de  proyectos y bendiciones

[JustinJJHCS1]

did you put a restriction in the Intake so the mix is as rich as possible? I just blocked the Intake with a Peace of plastic and Stuck the feed from the Bubblier into a Hole in the plastic this was my second try.... it ran way better but then it would not keep running I thought I did something wrong then I found my Booster pack was Dead LOL my dad stopped me from trying again because he has worked with Hydrogen and seen what it can do to you... Still going to try again...

[JustinJJHCS1]

Oh I see when I was doing this with a Wet cell and a 440cc Honda Engine I must have had a richer Mix. or there was Carbon in the engine from being run for several years on gas... Ill just have to try again I just had a booster pack hooked up to my cell and a Hot glued Salsa Jar as a bubbler but it Ran rough as you say it was probably too lean... Production is not high but in all the other experaments I have seen done this is so Hydrogen is the Problem it's two to One

[JustinJJHCS1]

A Cheap generator that is designed for Gasoline not HHO Advance the timing to 5 Degrees after Top Dead Center this is why the Engine is so hard to start Backfires and Runs ruff you are getting Pre-Detonation of the HHO Move the Mag Forward or get an engine you can adjust the timing on like a Small car Engine.

this is because Hydrogen has a Lower ignition range then Gasoline.

Timing will Solve all your problems See Wikipedia Hydrogen Safety

[mptrax]

ONE QUESTION.... I know this model of generator... did you adjust the timing ? run so smooth with timing changed ?

[MaN1aC666]

how much HHO do you produce LPM ? ... what is the voltage and amps you use? i'm woring on a device here 2, pretty hard to cetup :P