18% Sabre Red OC Spray

Me gettin hit with 18% Sabre Red OC Spray for training. This stuff SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Education

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• police
• oc
• spray
• sabre
• red
• security
• pepper

[wtowner81]

"ThomasMin1988" The purpose of this training is just for the simple fact of giving the officer the respect this stuff deserves. Most officers that have not been sprayed with it get "trigger happy" and spray whoever pisses them off. Whereas if you know the reprocussions of it, your less likely to just spray anyone and everyone. We got hit with the M18 taser also for this same reason, but didn't get the chance to get that on video haha! That was the funnier reaction of the two! haha!.

[wtowner81]

Ok most of you have pointed out that there is not a 18% Sabre Red... this is true and a typical noob mystake. My instructor and I were speaking about sprays before we actually got sprayed and thats where I got my info mixed up. This is only 10% in the 4.4 oz cans. Sorry about the confusion, but still it hurt haha! Thanks for setting it all straight!

[chrisw40]

NO i would definitely rather be pepper sprayed than shot pepper spray doesn't require surgery

[lotokoth]

@Ugotpwned66 This guy right here, posted the stupid comment on this video.

[Brent376]

@Ugotpwned66 Sabre may have more Capsaicin content in it but that does not make it any better because look up the MSDS sheet for the product and it has distilled H20 as a primary ingredient. Now I believe Sabre Red is effective but Fox 5.3 is a much stronger spray. I tell you what, look up the video titled Big John vs Fox 5.3. The day before he was sprayed with Sabre Red and he said Fox was much worse. Read the LE reports on policelink about how fast acting it is. Sabre works but fox is better.

[Brent376]

@ayokay123 I agree 100%. The biggest problem with many different brands of OC is they start out with a very good formulation and then use a water miscible formula that takes too long to work. The carriers used are as important as the percent of Major Capsaicin Content. What good is a spray with 1.33% Major Capsaicin Content if its mixed with 60% Water? It takes too long to work. Fox works so well because they use a lower percent of oil @ 2% with a higher grade of resin plus an effective solvent.

[Brent376]

@Ugotpwned66 BTW, I don't know why this video says 18% Sabre Red because Sabre doesn't make 18% Pepper Spray. This looked like Def Tech .18% (thats less than 1%) major capsaicinoids. To be fair I believe Def Tech is effective most of the time neither Def Tech or Sabre Red is as fast acting as Fox 5.3. If you do choose Sabre Red I recommend their oil based formulas. Water based formulas are for departments who are more worried about liability than protecting their officers.

[Brent376]

@Ugotpwned66 Wow a pepper spray caliber war! I was sprayed with Sabre Red in training and it was by no means pleasant. However, where Fox 5.3 truly excels is with reaction time. Fox Labs is by far the fastest acting OC spray I have been exposed to. I did feel that the Fox 5.3 was more intense than Sabre Red and the Sabre Red Foam I was hit with did not start to burn till I made it to the decon station. However once it did kick in it sucked bad. Both will work but Fox works a lot faster.

[ayokay123]

@Ugotpwned66 I PRAY to God that you get sprayed in the face with Fox 5.3 some time. That will put a finale to your theoretical BS. My so-called "bias" is based on the fact that I've had to sample both. That's the proof of the pudding, mon frere. Think about it....if the formulation of Sabre Red was truly more effective/stronger, how difficult would it be for Fox to "strenthen" their own? Answer: It wouldn't be. It's not only the %capsaicin, it's just as much the delivery vehicle.

[Ugotpwned66]

@ayokay123 Here' some math for you. 5.3 million SHU * 2% is equal to 106,000 SHU. Sabre Red uses a 2 million SHU * 10% = 200,000 SHU. Almost twice as strong. Sorry to burst your bubble and love affair with Fox Labs, but the Sabre Red will hurt more. Next time you want to sound like a little brat on youtube, check the facts. Goodbye! :)

[Ugotpwned66]

@ayokay123 Blah, blah, blah marketing mumbo jumbo about stripping oils. It's all false and you just have a bias based on believe BS. What I said is true. Sabre Red is a 1.33% Capsaicinoid spray. Fox 5.3 only has half the amount of capsaicinoids 0.7%. Capsaicinoids are what create the heat. Therefore Sabre Red is hotter. It's a fact and Fox admits that. That's why their marketing came up with some other excuse. So nice try on your part, but Sabre is stronger.

[ayokay123]

@Ugotpwned66 I've experienced both in training, but a nice try on your part. What you're spewing is complete and utter BS. Much has been written comparing the two, and if you do some reading, you'll understand why Fox's formulation strips the skin of its protective oils much quicker than Sabre. The only advantage that Sabre has is its propellant system, which is stronger. Like I said, I've experienced both. Do you have any affiliation with Sabre? I have no affiliation with either.

[Ugotpwned66]

@ayokay123 Too bad that Sabre Red is actually about twice as strong as Fox 5.3. The 5.3 million scoville units mean nothing when diluted down to 2%. Fox = 0.7% capsaicinoids, Sabre Red is 1.33%. There is no stronger other than Bear Mace 2%. Believe the Fox hype all you want, 0.7% is good, but it's not better than 1.33% and if anything 5.3 would be the shit in this case.