DEBATE: Lee Harvey Oswald vs. Carlos Bringuier & Ed Butler 2

Debate that took place August 21st, 1963 on Bill Stuckey's radio program, moderated by himself and Bill Slater. According to the book The Secret World of Lee Harvey Oswald (by Edward Jay Epstein), here is some interesting background of the debate:

"August 21 was an especially hot and muggy August afternoon, and Oswald arrived in the studio in a heavy gray flannel suit, shirt and tie. Bringuier walked over to him and said softly, 'Listen, Mr. Oswald, I would like to explain to you that other than the troubles between you and me (Oswald was arrested weeks earlier after Bringuier hit him), and our ideological differences, I don't have anything against you as a person...Maybe you are mistaken in good faith...' Oswald heard him out, smiled and replied, 'I am sure that I am on the right side and you are on the wrong one'"

"Stuckey, impressed with Oswald's performance, took him to Comeaux's, his favorite bar in the French Quarter, and discussed with him life in Russia until the early hours of the morning. Why had he left Russia? Oswald explained that it had 'gone soft' on communism; Cuba was the only revolutionary country left"

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[lancetop]

There was really NO "Fair Play for Cuba Committee"! Lee was the only member! It was all a front for the intelligence community to set Oswald up as a Patsy.

[AntonBatey]

@lancetop

You're just talking about New Orleans. My uncle was a member in California.

[Soulvigilante]

To me, there is this undercurrent of lampoon to Oswald's delivery and responses, like the whole thing was sort of tongue-in-cheek. When you look at the television clip of Oswald's interview, his body language suggests this as well. I can't help but get the feeling that he was well aware that the whole charade was a big put-on, yet had no idea he was being thrown under the bus.

[Exiles800]

Hard to say what Oswald knew that day in the Depository. Once you understand the Paine's was a CIA safehouse and the people involved helped arrange Oswald's job at the Depository the rifle's being there isn't so easily explained. What is really bizarre is the possibility Oswald was Manchurian Candidate MKULTRA hypnotized. Who knows what orders Oswald was under in the Depository. One thing is for sure he kept his mouth shut in the Police Station which means he was still operating covertly.

[BlackieGirl]

Of course, Oswald was also informing for the FBI, and ,in my opinion, probably felt that he was working to prevent the assassination and instead ended up taking the fall.

[BlackieGirl]

Good comment. All these Fair Play for Cuba shenanigans were, as author Jim Douglass puts it, a "political theatre" designed to not only discredit the movement(which the CIA had been trying to do well before Oswald ever came into the picture, from what I understand), but of course Oswald as well. By Oswald appearing to have pro-Castro views, once the assassination went down, not only would Oswald be the fall guy, but Castro would as well. Both Bringuier and Ed Butler were affiliated with the Cia.

[dekekyo]

'' i was under the protection of the .......uhh''....etc.(us government)..i believe he was.(i'm certain he was).

[Exiles800]

Oswald was an infiltrator and agent provocateur working under Guy Banister. Jim Garrison was on the right track in his investigation. Oswald was deliberately stuck out there so he could get the names of people who backed his Fair Play cause but also to establish him with pro-Castro credentials for who knows what, but probably to get him into Cuba or pro-Castro circles. This network then drew him into a plot to kill Kennedy where he was set-up as a patsy. The radio show is agiprop for New Orleans

[carveawoodeneye]

his voice sounds like a machine pretending to be a man!! it's a well known fact that the soviet union had advanced alien technology!! ( they even call lho and alien at one point in this audio how blind are you people )the movie terminator 2 was based on actual events from behind the commie curtain so it's not a stretch to realize those dirty rotten commies replaced the real oswald with a commie robot spy bent on world domination!! they almost got away with it if not for youtube

[translationwiz]

does Oswald sound like he isnt a Native English Speaker on occasion during this interview. E.g. in Soviet Union rather than in THE Soviet Union. I'd go as far to say its done intentionally. B/c then he reverts to a pure mix of Yankee/southern American accent. On the whole though; this guy doesnt sound anything like a nut to me. He is sharp. Hes focused and well informed in the subjects he discusses. Poor guy. I wonder what really happened to him. And how big was his role in JFK assn.