Bach Passacaglia in C minor BWV 582 on a Carillon (bell) 1/2
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Wish I could be there in person. I too was moved to tears.
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I'm sitting here weeping at the beauty and absolute mastery of this. Abolutely astounding. Thanks for posting.
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btw. that other person was insulting richter (on the walcha video) , you didnt say it that sharp as he did
messed up sound like an insult , but every1 is sometimes messed up in his believes
its human
its the question if you think your the allknowing (as this guy was) or if you accept others criticism if its correct (as you)
thats why i excused my self for my (a bit) harsh first answer
-smart people dont need to pretend or implete to be smart-
ok i will listen to walch. pass. now^
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i never said all have to like richters interpretation most
i said myself personally i like stamms passcalia most
but richters fugue
it was only the way you said it
you have to have a good taste if you like the passaclia that much
thats what i know
but we modern people are way too fast if it comes to judge the past
its like poem analysis, somehow you can interpret everything you want into anything
the question is was it really the artists intention, or do we only think to know
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@Dirkovic80 Oh, I'm terribly sorry, for "friend" , I mean, you mentioned about other person, didn't you? I mean that person you are reffering to. I don't mean to be mean to you at all. And i'm willing to take your critic.. Maybe you are right about judging the depth of understandings.
But I still like Walcha much better. I have to be honest as a music lover. Hope you feel alright about me.
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@ttwiligh7 deeper understanding yeah whatever you think hehe i dont think youre really in position to jude about who is "understanding this piece or not" -messed up^ let me answer: 1. "we can still be friends" was a paraphrase for what i wrote before ^ 2. you asked for an explanation, i need more space for explaining accurately than you need for your defarming of richter ^ i could also make it easy for me and write walcha was a mechanicus compared to richter still, good day my friend xD
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@Dirkovic80 I still think Walcha had deeper understanding of the piece. I have a right to prefer one player to the other by such a reasoning.
However, I might have said too far. My apologies.
I have a couple of requests, now.
1 Don't bring up "friend" again whoever you mean, please.
2 Try to make a room for others. This is basically a page for poeple who love to listen to this. I'm trying to make each replies as simple as possibe for that reason.
Now, let's have a break.
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and btw if you want the source for mozart talking about "mechanicus"
look up mozart letters about the competition with clementi
clementi didnt want to play for greater audiences any more after he heared about that
and he tried to play less mechanic (means, he accepted mozarts opinion as true; clementi even told one of his pupils that he played very "mechanic" before the competition with mozart)
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this is why many people dont like richters passcalia , because he doesnt play it in pleno
but this is again a matter of taste
richter wanted to make this piece " a (bible) little story "
here listen to this for example and watch some of the comments mb
/watch?v=STij8KmsgcI&feature=c
hannel_video_title this organist plays in richters style (its better audio quality)
ok once again , my intention is rlly not insulting but i had to defend richter on this one
we can still be friends^
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the goal of composers was to imitate voices (choirs) on the piano/organ/cembalo as cantabile forms
not to play like a mechanic roboter
(if you like this , then computers would be the best organists .. but computers are always worser then humans because they can give spirit into it )
richter expresses every voice so beautifull, it really sounds like a big choir
and btw you have to be aware that richters audios are very old and richter played not as muchpleno as many others
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i hope you understand what i want to say (its hard for me to argue in eng.)
there are too many people of today which think they get , or they have to make other people think they are getting bachs intellect
but isnt it the reason why their music is so divine ? because we dont understand how humans could do this
if we have so many smartasses around here why is there no1 who can compose pieces who come even close to bch or mozart ?
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Incredible!
This recording has a sort of momentum that I really haven't heard in any other recordings of this piece. Is that because of the player's style, or use of the bells?
Absolutely fabulous. Thanks to whomever posted this.
OpenCadence78 3 years ago 5
You are welcome. I personally believe that it's both.
You should check out the same player (Boudewijn Zwart) playing chaconne I posted just a month ago and decide whether you like it as well
wormization 3 years ago