I'm still Appalled!

My thoughts after reading Peter de Rosa's book "Vicars of Christ"
Another good book by Peter de Rosa
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Pope-Patrick/Peter-de-Rosa/e/9780385485487
Kenneth Humphreys - a good non-theistic review of Christianity's disgraceful record:-
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/1000years.htm
A blog review of Vicars of Christ
http://lostinthought.org.uk/?tag=peter-de-rosa

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[TheSoSoAgnostic]

"...every crime in the Newgate calender...." ?????

The US and the UK; 2 countries separated by a common language.

[tenneral]

Newgate was the chief criminal prison in 18th century London. The Calendar was a list of those executed in the prison with detailed descriptions of their crimes. So NC is a phrase used to mean every possible hangable offence!

[loudman12]

@tenneral great video though one part you could have mentioned was the alias menofarcarum (think i spelt it right) or the witches hammer. where millions of free thinking woman were sentenced to death by orders of bishops, popes and priests for them being free thinking. keep up the good work

[tenneral]

@loudman12 Yes indeed : Malleus Maleficarum - written by two Dominican monks - was the religious cause of appalling cruelty - and all in the name of 'you-know-who'!

[cmxcmx]

Wonderfully engaging as always, I'd raise a glass of gin and tonic to you but I guess a nice glass of southern-Netherlands wheat beer will have to do.

Cheers,

cmxcmx.

[tenneral]

Prost!

[dprjones]

If you carry on making good videos I shall be forced to dmca you!

By the way, did you know that you now have almost exactly one tenth of the subs that the pope does? Keep going at this rate and you could set up your own religion!

[fionn18]

I think you're right about it's decline, in Ireland once a very catholic nation it was only a few years ago when only two new priests were ordained in the whole country, not sure of current figures but I guess we in Ireland got some of the worst abuses in Europe. The trust is broken and I think it will remain so.

[Winaska]

@loudman12 ok for the last time. actual history allows for roughly 500 deaths via the mediaval inquisition. 2. the mayans were gone before the spanish ever showed up the Aztecs had swallowed them up, and the pope , again, DEFENDED the native peoples. you can find that document online ill give you the link later. The thirty yeas war was based around religion but became political very quickly, and luther's his actions were not a direct cause. millions? not enough time or technology my friend.

[loudman12]

@loudman12 millions by order of the pope through the inquistion to question all free thinking woamn. millions confirmed abducted, questioned tortured, burnt at a steak as witches. you see you keep running into this problem you can not refute this, popes may have at later stages decreaed that certain actions were wrong bu popes are the represenitive of god, anbd their actions reflect on that god

[loudman12]

@Winaska the 30 years war was based on the fact that the catholic church had decended so badly martin luther the german monk had called for changes and was threatened. the 30 years war caused millions of death it was not policital, the war started through religion. though i except the natives did die of disease in part., the mayans were slaughted through their "Un-godly ways" decreaed by that same pope you mentioned. the inquisition was not 500, like I said before the malias manifracum killed

[Winaska]

@loudman12 most of the natives who died died of decease. The 30 years war was more political than anything because France was allied with protestants in that and they were the most powerful catholic empire of the time...the 500 people i was talking about were the executions of the Roman Inquisition from 1100-1300. Actually regarding the Americas it was a papal decree of Pope Paul III that said that the natives should be treated as fellow men worthy of conversion and worthy of eternal life.

[loudman12]

@Winaska 500 people seriously you came back with that ??? the spanish in the americas killed millions by bringing christianity to there. lets also add the crusades to this as well, and also while we are there lets try the 30 years war in europe cause by protsitants and catholics fighting over which view of christianity was correct. you fail again read some history

[Winaska]

@loudman12 and even the Balck Death which moved much faster and with more efficiency than "which hunters" could ever hope only managed to kill off 1/3 of that population. official body count from the 300 years of the inquisition is roughly...500 people executed. how many priests and nuns did the french revolutionaries kill in one day during the Reign of Terror? i let you look it up and find the answer, but it should land somewhere between 500 and 800( a day...).

[Winaska]

@loudman12 i did refute what you said by letting you know that many historians reject the authenticity of Malleus Maleficarum. it was written yes, and unfortunately it was used by some, but it was never approved , and there is evidence to say it was even declared a heretical text.. millions recorded dead...? HA! it is inconceivable that the church or even the temporal governments could inflict that much carnage in medieval Europe. the pop was only in the millions to begin with.

[loudman12]

@Winaska Malleus Maleficarum look it up!!! 2 dominioon n monks by order of the catholic church authorised by the pope spread across europe and rooted out all free thinking woman, millions recorded dead. I know your religion does not like to accept this, because facts are to religion like sun light is to vampires, not once have you actually refuted what I said. read the witches hammer then come back and lecture learn some history before you re-write it. Good day

[Winaska]

@loudman12 like i said, God intended equality in the sense that each gender has seperate but equal roles in life. mother and father, priest and sister, etc etc. all are equally important to buld the kingdom of God. the idea that the church used torture to get rid of "forward thinking women" in the middle ages is preposterous because most women(like most men) cared little for theology they just wanted food on their table. a lot of historians actually now dismiss the authenticity of the TWH btw.