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[Lovedesructo69]

Why does everybody that believes in evolution is a complete retard?

[spiritring]

@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke or an ocean of spacetime - big bang though is tested and you know vacuum fluctuations cannot occur when space itself was not present. It is no explosion at all on a pre - existing space RATHER the expansion of space itself. The other options are string models which are the ones done in paper and in/math, but does not necessarlly happen in reality.

[HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke]

@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke (or, perhaps the singularity isn't eternal but popped out of nothingness by some process like energy-time heisenberg uncertainty principle)

[HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke]

@spiritring Paul Davies? cool I read his books as a teenager. He just described that we cant predict beyond the big bang. The singularity may have been eternal, or the density may not go all the way to a singularity before spawning of some hyperspace multiverse, like a bubble inflating off a foam of universes, or an ocean of spacetime. there are many other options, we just don't know how to test them yet.

[spiritring]

For this reason most cosmologists think of the initial singularity as the beginning of the universe. On this view the big bang represents the creation event; the creation not only of all the matter and energy in the universe, but also of spacetime itself." ~ P. C. W. Davies.

Are you saying, the universe is eternal in by means of singularity?

[spiritring]

@mcmadbat3 "The other 3 forces are explained by the standard model and not by einstein." Did I say it support it? Does Einstein have nothing to do with the big bang? "If we extrapolate this prediction to its extreme, we reach a point when all distances in the universe have shrunk to zero. An initial cosmological singularity therefore forms a past temporal extremity to the universe. We cannot continue physical reasoning, or even the concept of spacetime, through such an extremity. conti ~

[mcmadbat3]

@spiritring Again relativity only deals with macroscopic physics and only explains one of the fundamental forces. The other 3 forces are explained by the standard model and not by einstein. It so happens that a singularity is in the realms of quantum physics and not relativity. I don't think you're in the position to challenge the big bang model if you make such fundamental errors.

[mcmadbat3]

fail argument man

[mcmadbat3]

wow fail

[ronnystoehr]

facepalm...