I was an Atheist.

For Theists who say, I was an Atheist.
You were never an atheist.
Full Realization Atheism is irreversible unless one suffers brain damage.
Do you think you can go back now and believe in Santa Claus and all the stories that go along with that belief?
No, of course not.
There is no difference.
Your mind is not free, you have been brain washed your whole life.
Imagine yourself as the child that believes in Santa and then imagine that no one tells you that it was make-believe and then they keep reinforcing that belief at least, every Sunday for years.
Do you think you would still believe in Santa?

God is not talking to you nor has God spoken to anyone, they were talking to themselves and now are telling you what they heard from THEMSELVES and you are living your life on that bases.
Free yourself of your delusion.

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[mikejpete]

I would never insult the intelligence of someone with an opposing world view even if I vehemently disagreed with them. "Irreparable brain damage", what a narrow minded world view.

[AntEyeTheist]

@mikejpete A friend comes to you one day and tells you that they believe in Santa Claus, again. They once knew, without a doubt, that the story of Santa was nothing more than a fairy-tale, and now they are telling you that he is real. Now, replace Santa Claus with God.

Why is this concept so difficult for theists to understand?

"When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion." - Robert Pirsig

[AntEyeTheist]

@mikejpete "I would never insult the intelligence of someone who believes in Santa Claus." Really!



[Keatrocity]

@AntEyeTheist

...first person who comes to mind: Anthony Flew.

also Lee Strobel.

The fact is any world view is susceptible to alteration, abandon, apostasy, and conversion. Granted it would be unnatural and an indelible sign of flippancy to do so more than twice but knowing the argument like I do, I know there to be convincing cases on both sides.

You speak very much like someone who prefers to condescend and caricature your intellectual opponents than to engage them in honest debate.

[AntEyeTheist]

@Keatrocity

You speak very much like someone who prefers to make snap judgments about people you know very little about.

[victoneter]

Every child is born an Atheist because it doesn't know what a God is.

[terminat1]

The Santa Claus-God parallel just doesn't exist. Billions of adults believe in God, and yet, why should they? If they believe that God is as fake as Santa Claus, then they are intentionally deceiving themselves.

There's a reason adults believe in God, and yes, atheists do become theists. There are good reasons to believe in God, and there are no good reasons to believe in Santa.

If you are an atheist, then you must believe that several laws of science were broken in order to form the cosmos...

[hawkertruffelsnout]

Keatrocity for some reason I am being blocked from responding your last comment

here it is anyway

"WOW why so hostile? I was just pointing out a simple fact. Anthony flew was mentally disturbed when he turned to gods. Sorry I forgot that theists don’t like facts"

[Keatrocity]

@hawkertruffelsnout I understand the insecurity felt when someone witnesses their cherished belief abandoned by another, an insecurity exastorbated when the one abandoning it helped define it, helped give it a name. Instead of whining, educate yourself. As it stands you are the midget kicking shins, interupting the discourse between adults engaging their intellectual counterparts. Crazy; seperation from reality. Denying reality Himself is the surest way to break from reality.

[hawkertruffelsnout]

@Keatrocity Anthony Flew is a perfect demonstration of this video

anteyetheist states that full realization atheism is irreversible unless one suffers brain damage.

Anthony flew was crazy by the time he discovered gods, that’s not just my opinion but the opinion of people who knew him

my opinion is that any one who believes in gods is crazy

[IAmthesc0ut]

my years of worshiping an imaginary authority were horrible.

[victoneter]

@skunksnag Prove it, I'd say.

[skunksnag]

@victoneter Nope, every child is born cause God is.

[skunksnag]

Imagine your eyes reading this.... Then imagine a HUGE EXPLOSION causing you to respond.........funny huh?

[lewisner]

I was never told there was no Santa Claus. I figured it out myself when I saw the presents in a cupboard. It was the work of a few seconds to realise "god" was made up too. I hung with Santa for a few years though 8-)

[09davidwood]

Your claims are ridiculous, because i lack a belief that pen A is not on my desk, I leave and come home later to find pen A on my desk, I can feel, smell, compare, write with, and have 100% proof of it's location, you are claiming i CAN NOT (am not capable of) believing that it is there? You are also assuming we are concieved with full knowledge and have fully thought out personal beliefs of everything we believe to be true. I'm 100% atheist, this is just illogical

[gogolplex74]

you're fucking pseudo-intelectual

[GodsArePeopleToo]

i find it strange that when someone claims god spoke to them, the one who is told to 'prove it' is the one who says 'no he didn't' rather than the one who says 'god spoke to me'

i only ask one thing of those who claim to be 'atheist-turned-theist'... what evidence converted you?

and i never get an answer. therefore i never believe they were atheist.

[rmaynard626]

@scienceandmusiclover I never said it was impossible... It was simply an analogy as to how hard it would've been for an individual, as well as the obstacles that one would have to overcome in order to stay true to the faith. Why would a person knowingly put themselves in that situation if what he/she witnessed and believed in were not true? This was not one account but thousands of Christians. Heresy was and is not taken lightly within the Jewish society.

[scienceandmusiclover]

@rmaynard626 Actually Jewish literature did arise in concentration camps. Just a couple of years ago, a document was found within the walls of a camp, and it had signatures.

One person who survived had signed it, and he discussed how they did it.

[rmaynard626]

@xGoDzNoToRi0us Good Question! You have to remember that in those times anyone who did not side with the Pharisees, Saducees and abide by Roman law were automatically ostracised and killed. Jesus was mostly considered a rebel, and by the Jews a criminal. Anyone siding with Jesus were killed. The early church was brutally and systematically eradicated. The Roman Emperor Nero took pleasure in killing the early Christians. It would've been like writing a Jewish newspaper in a German Nazi camp.

[xGoDzNoToRi0us]

@rmaynard626 ok question if they really wrote about jesus. how come the only people writing about jesus were christian or members of the church. how come there was no random person that so happened to walk by and write about him.. why is it that only people from chruch wrote about jesus but no random people. i would think if i saw jesus performing miracles and rasing people from the dead. i would write about it so my children could know about him. but no only christians wrote about him.

[radafat]

@rmaynard626 Not true, there is no evidence or documentation of Jesus (the bible doesn't count, it's all hearsay testimony written by people who never met the non-existent Jesus). NOBODY ever wrote about him during his lifetime. No secular scholar would agree with your claims, you are seriously misinformed.

[Downfurlife]

@rmaynard626 Google books:

Flavius Josephus on the Pharisees: a composition-critical study By Steve Mason

The world famous:

Burton Mack - Who Wrote The New Testament

Jesus Interrupted by Bart D. Ehrman

Church father Origen (c. 185-c.254) appear in his Contra Celsus, Book I, Chapter XLVII(How about that one :)

The catholic encyclopedia and ready it is a quite in reference to pious fraud: ""The passage seems to suffer from repeated interpolations."

I am only allowed Chars

[rmaynard626]

@Downfurlife Josephus was born a couple of years after the death of Christ Jesus, which would make him a "historian". A historian deals in history, and Jospehus was that, not journalist. Secondly, You have to understand the jewish politics at that time. By Josephus making these claims at this time would subject himself to harm. Many Jews at that time would have stoned him to death for heresy.