Orthodoxy & Scripture 3B: History of the New Testament
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Exactly what can happen to anyone who is experiencing Christianity in its own way ... To become like you! I'm not saying you're a bad guy or anything like that, but you have to know that Orthodoxy is the same from the Apostles to the present day, so the story of your is trivial and full of insignificant information!
P.S. Thank you for your attention and God bless!!!
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Nice video, but I'm not certain it can be said that Sinaiticus is from the commision of 50 copies by Constantine.
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@pandirasbox "Why do you actually believe their was one tradition passed down faithfully?" You're referring to people other than the Apostles in the arguments that follow this question. Origen presenting a different tradition than Irenaeus and Tertullian, etc. does not mean that the Apostles taught these different traditions. Do you think that Ap. Peter taught a different tradition from Ap. John?
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By these bookls I actually meant the "heretical" books (not the canon) oops
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Actually Carthage had a council that solidified the Canon and the letter of Athanasius proscribing books did as well. Theodosius I enforced taking these books away later.
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2nd John not 2 John, that is how to say it.
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Actually only the Byzantine text or Caesarean text can be Constantines Bible. How can you say all 4 (or even 3) ancient 4th century codices are the same Bible. He ordered 50 of the same Bibles! Not variants.
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Why do you actually believe their was one tradition passed down faithfully? This is certainly not the case and many traditions within the Church go extinct and go misrepresented and misunderstood at later times in their maturation. Origen presents a very different tradition from Irenaeus and Tertullian, as does Clement of Alexandria and Eusebius. John Chrysostom even. You avoid the earliest time in the church history and rely on 3rd-4th century late inferior information with fatal flaws.
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Why do you avoid Irenaeus' canon? Why avoid Marcions? Why avoid Valentinus'? I can show you Valentinus' "canon" of NT books.
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Why do you neglect to mention P46?
@davidpwithun Informative but, when you couple the fact that there is no contemporary evidence of the person of Jesus (big red flag) together with the first appearance of the 4 gospels by name in AD 180 (another red flag) make one think that there is no primary source and therefore it’s all made up!!!
jlm2525 8 months ago
@jlm2525 Actually, both counts are incorrect: there is contemporary evidence for the person of Jesus and all four gospels are mentioned by name earlier than AD 180. I have an ongoing series on early Christian history that you might be interested in -- check out some of my newer videos.
davidpwithun 8 months ago
@davidpwithun I’m open to truly scholarly scientific work that is filled with citations from the mainstream historical community. I will not accept websites like “dr. dino” that has “scientific” elaboration completely devoid of cited works. Neither an appeal to emotions will work.
But as far as I’m concerned both of those points stand unless someone can present independent secular facts accompanied with cited works. Could you tell me what uploads you have that present such cited evidence?
jlm2525 8 months ago
@jlm2525 lol -- yes, sure -- how about this: go to your local book store and pick up any book by any scholar you can find on early Christian history.
davidpwithun 8 months ago