Original Sin - The Jesus Trip

Because we champion the gospel truth that our sinful nature died with Christ, some often jump to the conclusion that there is no longer any such thing as original sin. This week, John brings clarity to the truth that yes, all had original sin - but only to the extent that all of humanity has, in some way, shared "in Adam."
The greater truth, is that all of humanity - whether they realize it or not - mystically shares "in Christ." So both of these sides of the equation are true: "For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive" (1 Cor. 12:22). However, for the believer, we are no longer torn between the two.
We shouldn't deny that all have participated in Adam's existence, but the revelation of the Gospel is that Adam's sinful nature held no independent substance of it's own. Before Adam was Christ, who bestowed His 'Original Innocence' on us all!
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[MartinKronback]

A question... How can God be our Father before we are saved when John (the apostle) says we BECOME his children? All humans originate from God, they are his creations, they "live and move and have their being" in Him, but are they HIS? What about spiritual adoption? (See John 1:11-13 Amplified)

[SonsofThunderPub]

@MartinKronback Faith is a recognition that in Christ you have already been adopted. It's not an issue of "before" you were saved. It's "WHO" saved you. You were saved 2,000 years ago (in fact, before the foundation of the world). But without faith, you'll never see/recognize/experience the salvation He gave you.

[MartinKronback]

If reconciliation is what God already has accomplished for all humanity in Christ, in one big swoop, while salvation/deliverance/regenera­tion is what happens IN MAN, does not Christ -the Seed- come to live in man when He is BORN in man? Christ comes to dwell in us when sin moved out or he dwells in all men?! "live and move and have our being" is not the same as "Christ in you" (Col 1:27), right? We were 'made one spirit with Him" when we were justified by faith(?) True or false?

[SonsofThunderPub]

@MartinKronback All of humanity is "in Christ" in a hidden way - therefore from God's perspective, all have been reconciled/saved/delivered - whatever you want to call it. But this is "personalized" by faith (i.e. trusting that it is ours). So there are no "insiders & outsiders" ... only "believers & unbelievers."

[Crucifixxated]

@MartinKronback To all who believe & receive Him He has given the right to BECOME children of God not born of this world, in the sense of owning what was intended all along from God, who is your creator, even from your conception which was in the "womb" of His mind. When He thought you up, is when you were born not of this world. Admit sin & return home. He is preexistant FATHER it was always His desire to have every creation of His which was given free will to accept His preeminance as Father.

[Ferrante1978]

I love you John!

[cinetaat]

when is this new sasha baron cohen movie coming out?

[jesusiscoming102]

Is the sinful nature merely an state of believing in lies or does it have an essence? In other words, what is the essence of the sin nature? Just sin? Some have called it an entity if it's own since its used as a noun in the Bible. Is it merely a belief system based on false realities? So if a believer sins is he participating in the false nature that really doesn't exist for him?

[MartinKronback]

@JoBracks LOL

[JoBracks]

@IHaveYourSealab What about vampires? Aren't they human? And zombies! Are they still human? Oh and what about gay people? Are they humans? No. None of those things even exist.