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Uploaded by on Sep 25, 2006

Tim Keller discusses issues related to the Desiring God 2006 National Conference. Also see http://www.timkeller.info/ for all things Tim Keller.

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  • I got his book "The Reason for God." It's an amazing book and helped me look at Christianity in whole new way than I had before. Keller is a really admirable man!

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  • it would be nice to share the Gospel as effectively & as eloquently as Pastor Tim Keller ... awesome

  • @LyraM13 because IF members/groups of the christian religion stop adhering to the gospel then they will consider themselves to be christian, but in fact will not be so - by your formula. distinguishing between these groups is critical, as one has the 'clothes' but not the 'heart'. you don't want to say to people 'jusrt dress up nice and god will accept you', do you? this discernment between false and true religion, btw, is also a fundamental teaching of jesus, part of core doctrine.

  • Yep, people don't understand. All they have to do is accept Jesus. So easy, but for people consumed with darkness. So so hard.

  • There is something/someone beyond our understanding that created the universe. However, it does not involve religion. You can believe in a God without believing in Religion

  • There is enough evidence of the existence of god, i am god thankfull for what i have

    but the supernatural god can't help me, so i never ask for help, because i know he can't help me. the only thing i do is beeing gratefull.

    I am irreligous, but not a atheist, i believe that religons have more disadvanteges than advantages.

    peace out

  • @sirmoosa, Greetings-

    I didn't say anything about 3 approaches. I was simply stating that IF the Christian religion actually adheres to the teachings of Jesus, then one cannot have the religion without the gospel. My question was, why would this be separated in order to attract converts? A logical next question would be, what NEED is there to obscure the religion from the potential believer when one is preaching Jesus' message?

  • @LyraM13 He isn't saying there are 3 approaches to the gospel. I see why you would get that from what he said because that is what it sounded like. I didn't even understand your statement until I replayed it and caught it. He is speaking of three understandings of men that they use to contextualize what they are hearing. Christianity cannot be distinguished from the Gospel. There is no Christianity without the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

  • Interesting approach. Though I am atheist, one of my favorite authors is C.S. Lewis. I have not read the treatise mentioned in this video.

    But, IF the Christian religion actually adheres to the teachings of Jesus, you cannot have the Christian religion without the gospel. So why, in order to be fishers of men, do you separate these? If the Christian religion adheres to the teachings of Jesus, then it shouldn't NEED to be distinguished from the gospel.

  • yes, but its primary focus isn't you or I, it's God. We exist to glorify God as does He. I won't lose any sleep over anyones 'best life now'. What i will lose sleep over is where their eternity will lie.

  • Well, it depends what "a better person" is. The gospel, along with the rest of the New Testament, establishes a new covenant between man and God.

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