David Barton Endorses Sam Brownback

David Barton gives a presentation on the history of US government and beautifully ties it in with Sam Brownback and why he is a fit leader for our country.

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[PubliusAfricanus]

Respecting your right of religious expression does not include turning the United States into a Christian empire, as David Barton believes we should be.

[Morkindie]

In fact there is a great deal of evidence to indicate that our morals are a result of natural selection. wiki-search Hamilton's rule. There is also a great deal of evidence to suggest that religions teach EVIL.

Don't believe me? Read the bible. ALL of it. There are nice parts, about how not to beat your wife too much, or that you can't stone a virgin that is raped in the field, because she may have cried out. But there a pages upon chapters upon books that espouse torture rape genocide, murder.

[JonWRowe]

Out of the first five names he recites: John Adams, Samuel Cooper, Jonathan Mayhew, Charles Chauncy and George Whitefield, ONLY WHITEFIELD WAS A TRINITARIAN. The rest of them were theological unitarian-universalists.

[kressink]

Dozens of such incidents are well documented by Chris Rodda. You can read her book, watch her videos, etc. But a few paragraphs of actually listening to Barton should tip you off. Or try reading the letters between Jefferson and Adams and contrast to Barton.

[rfpt2345]

I don't know if Barton is fraudulent or not but that is one lame answer.

[kressink]

Exactly right. It is amazing people here can line up behind Barton based on an obvious bag of lies. Seems amazing people have to argue for truth and facts...a sign of the times.

[kressink]

Exactly. Thanks for stating the obvious.

[kressink]

Ha, ha, what a wonderful world if today's Christians would be trying to take the best of ALL religions ... Jefferson had a term for many of the "modern Christians" defending Barton - fanatics.

[kressink]

If you studied early American history with any open mind, you could so easily see Barton is a complete fraud. The evidence is so VAST only a complete blind, moron need ask for some.

[rfpt2345]

WHAT kressink? You are making pretty strong accusations without presenting one piece of evidence. Why should anyone believe what you say?

[kressink]

Barton says "half those guys were ministers" - such a lie! One was a minister, Barton! Seminary was interchangable with school back then - Barton uses the modern definition to rewrite American history again.

[Morkindie]

To leave such an important document almost completely devoid of religious statements would take a conscious effort. This is deliberate. The entries that are made, are the vague diest phrases, that have no relation to any particular religion. These people envisioned a secular government.

Furthermore, their morals were not products of their respective religions. I have seen this argument time and again. There is no evidence that morals have their source in religion of any sort.

[Morkindie]

Many of the founding fathers were christians. This is undisputed. The declaration mentions, "the laws of nature and of nature's god"..."endowed by their creator"..."the supreme judge of the world"..."protection of divine providence"... "and our sacred honor."

The constitution only has this to say about god. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof:..."

In 1791, when the amendments were ratified, this would be very conspicuous

[Staff7]

To quote Hitchens"if you believe in a talking snake you will believe anything."

[Bigbeechbum]

Religious propaganda, more lying for jeyzus. It's a waste of time to try to educate, but read a book, please.

[EnemyoftheDevil]

I agree with you on that. I haven't heard David in a while, or this video. But I think there's a misunderstanding between most Christians and Atheists. I don't think anyone wants to make it a "Christian" empire. But Christians themselves fear that there is an effort of being a freedom from religion, not of it. Especially to Christianity. The common ground tried from Christians is the prevention of a careless Nihilist amoral country.

[JonWRowe]

Bullsh!t.

[allamericangranny]

Washington once wrote in a letter you must believe in Father son7Holy Spirit to be a true american.

[EnemyoftheDevil]

No you're incorrect, you misunderstand the point. The founders were Christian majority wise. They know it can't be a "Christian" nation because that would defeat the point of American Revolution, and the leave from Great Britain and the Church. But the Constitution was ethically inspired even if secular founders didn't accept the story of Jesus. The point is we are a Republic, not a Democracy, so in fact that we vote in people to protect us, and they to RESPECT OUR RIGHT OF RELIGIOUS EXPRESSION.

[OriginalGuest]

An argument like what? That that founder didn't intend to make America a Christian Empire? Unless you are saying they developed amnesia and forgot to write it into the constitution, then it's not really an argument, but more of an observation.

Christians like to turn things around, like now, because they can't really prove their Christian Empire theory.

And that's why people like Barton resort to outright lies.

[EnemyoftheDevil]

Any dope can come up with an argument like that to make people fear the facts, of course you don't have any evidential argument of your obnoxious claim.

[Whoo69]

who the fuck is this joker?

[OriginalGuest]

Who gives a fuck if they were all Christians? The point is Barton makes quotes up and blurs history to trick people into believing that the Founders wanted America to be a Christian Empire--and their own words dispute this.

[JonWRowe]

The Deists and Unitarians in the Church were the ones who didn't take communion because they disbelieved in what the act represents: Christ's Atonement.