Midterms: what would Lincoln do?

The quote from Lincoln is taken from

Farmer, A (1996). The Origins of the American Civil War 1846-1861. Oxford: Hodder & Stoughton. 80.

The full letter is available from Northern Illinois University at http://lincoln.lib.niu.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/navigate.pl?lincoln.1937 Thanks to WalkingMap (www.youtube.com/walkingmap) for the link.

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[aperson22222]

voted against him in 2006--though he once embezzled from a children's hospital whose board he sat on, for God's sake. Normally I would say two years is an eternity in politics but I now feel comfortable to assume I'll end up voting Democratic in '12 (my House rep excepted) because it just doesn't look like there's a chance for Republican moderates to reassert themselves by '12.

[aperson22222]

I voted for a Republican, but only because he's a moderate and an incumbent; because two straight cycles of Democratic near-sweeps in the swing districts have effectively purged the GOP caucus of its centrists; and because, if this Republican majority is here to stay, it becomes absolutely essential that it includes centrists who have seniority over TP-ers and can block them from leadership positions. We had no senator up this year; as of now I intend to vote for our Democrat in 2012, though I

[GERASIMOS1]

fuck new world oreder lincon was one of them

[FLUSEM666]

@DLandonCole We will just have to see if the current politically correct appeasement of Islam makes things better or worse. That is if public opinion cannot be mobilised.

[DLandonCole]

@FLUSEM666 The plural of anecdote is not data.

[FLUSEM666]

@DLandonCole I do but I think you are being to forgiving of the so-called moderate muslims. They would rather side with their extremist Islamic brothers than become atheist, for example. That is a quote from a muslim acquaintance of mine. A 50 year old UK medical professional.

Blind faith is a dangerous thing.

[DLandonCole]

@FLUSEM666 Even then, I'm not sure you're correct but I have much less of a problem with it. However, I trust you see why I get so twitchy when people make blanket statements about Islam.

[coolman9999uk]

@cristoballs You don't think it is possible for a government to influence an economy? I just told you how, you help low/middle earners have disposable income. No disposable income = no demand = no GDP = no jobs. Yes of course everyone is against bad stimulus spending but change taxation, food stamps, help small businesses....

Even intuitively, if you can crash it, you can do what you can to steer it - this is like concentrating on engine braking to save fuel when you're heading off a cliff!

[coolman9999uk]

@cristoballs I'm referring to what makes economic sense. Yes you have a different scale of responsibility to what your government, but what matters for you in that situation and what matters for your government is what makes economic sense.

"if i use $1T of tax payer money to fund a stimulus package to get the country out of debt" - it's not to get the country out of debt directly or indirectly, it's to get growth. That's what I'm trying to illustrate to you.

[cristoballs]

@cristoballs let's say the man in your example is me. if i choose to buy the suit in order to land a job, and the job doesn't pan out, the suit was a loss to nobody but myself. however, if i use $1T of tax payer money to fund a stimulus package to get the country out of debt, and my plan doesn't pan out, then the tax payers are affected by my poor planning, even those who didn't agree to my plan in the first place.