4409 -- Ceiling Cat says: "Get off the grid FOOL"

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WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA?

Get off the grid FOOL

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[KurtG85]

I like Ron Paul except for his apparent (from the little info i have heard about him) belief in the totally free market. That is the very foundation of the money masters unjust control (aka corporate slavery). I see such vicious predatory capitalism as the root of the whole problem in this system of institutionalized narcissism that is breeding psychopathic tendencies in the human species. Anyone care to provide a link for a clear description of ron paul's beliefs in relation to this? Thanks.

[RP4409]

@KurtG85 ....The problem is with intelligent people like you who are duped into thinking we actually have capitalism. You should start there and you will eventually figure it out.

Real freedom is actually WAY beyond Ron Paul but he is a great ambassador for the newbies to understand the basic concepts.

[KurtG85]

@RP4409 Teach then, brother. Where or what is the best point of reference (documentary/website/whatever) to begin to discover this idyllic form of capitalism you believe in which meets the basic needs of the people?

I don't claim to be well educated on economic systems. All I know is that the current system, where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer to the point of death from starvation and lack of health care is unjust and that unrestricted competition wont solve these problems.

[RP4409]

@KurtG85 ....When did I ever claim there was an idyllic form of capitalism?

I just stated that people perceive we have "capitalism" but we don't, its called corporatism in which corporations, unions, fill in the black, use collectivism and government to [restrict] competition.

For instance, when you have government (collectivists using force) stealing from you (taxes) and handing it over (subsidizing) (bribing) to farmers to grow corn then the free market does not exist.

[KurtG85]

@RP4409 If I am still misunderstanding you, please clarify for me how your statement "The problem is with intelligent people like you who are duped into thinking we actually have capitalism." relates to my original statement. Specifically: how would my understanding that the system we actually have is not capitalism be conducive to fixing any of the current problems of institutionalized narcissism and a predatory money system (whatever you want to call it) which only provides for the rich?

[RP4409]

@KurtG85 ....Research the difference between Capitalism and Corporatism. If you think that America is capitalism them you do not have the basic understanding and concepts to rationalize a free market and its principles. Google Ron Paul and free markets or something...that's all I can tell you.... I can't do the work for you. Hint: governmental force and collectivism is the problem and always has been.

[dustinleeweg330]

This guy should look into solar panels on the roof. If your car sits at work for eight hours, you could get most of your charge back by 5pm. After all it is the range of these vehicles that cause them to be overlooked.

[J1Goro]

You mean Democrats that support retroactive immunity for Telecoms that illegally wire tap us? Or Democrats that still support our war in Iraq based on lies? Or those Democrats that are currently trying to pass an armed shipping embargo on Iran based on lies? Wakeup we have a one party system in the U.S. It needs to fixed.

[xMidnightBreakdownx]

Comments below? tl;dr

Point: this is a good idea. Get off the grid or gtfo. Kthxbai.

[KurtG85]

@RP4409 You didn't claim there was an idyllic form of capitalism. However, I took your statement: "The problem is with intelligent people like you who are duped into thinking we actually have capitalism.".. to be suggesting that our system needs modification to be true capitalism. I was trying to get you to clarify your views through some website or even through your own words of what those modifications need to be in order to reach, in MY words, a more 'idyllic' form of capitalism.

[blackoracle16]

I want that car

[piano1350]

Wait...WHAT?