@utrapzab You said Saudi Arabia. I thought you meant the WHOLE COUNTRY. Not Makkah. Now of course I don't agree with Makkah being open to all people. It is a holy site so what business do non Muslims have there? By the way was Makkah in PRE Islamic times open to everyone or just worshippers?
>why would answering christianity be of relevence to me?
Because you and every other anti Islamist use the same arguments against Islam so it doesn't matter if it's Christians or atheists they answer
@helookslikefamousppl that has debunked nothing - you have clearly shown double standards therefore any credibility you wish to have had is negated, it has to be, we cannot trust your word.
@helookslikefamousppl so you dont agree with the apartheid operated by what the world views as the flagship muslim country where the most holy of muslims sites- mecca, is - soi can only gather from that that you have a double standard mind set because surely a holy site should be open to all people - if muslims want to be understood then surely access to their most holy site, as is afforded by the vatican for example, is a must, maybe people would see the light but alas no, apartheid continues
@utrapzab >no, you answer my question first, do you think operating aparthied in saudi arabia is acceptable, one Q at a time nice and easy
Nope.
>so you deny taqqiya,
Taqiyya is a practice in Shi'a Islam whereby adherents may conceal their faith when they are under threat, persecution, or compulsion. I found this on wikipedia and britannica online. Unless those are run by muslims who are 'lying to further the religion.'
So what about Quran 4:90? “If they leave you alone and offer to make peace with you, God does not allow you to harm them.”
After 5 years you no one told you this was OUT OF CONTEXT? Also you said where is violence discouraged. "Warfare is an awesome evil" (2:217) Fight those who attack you (2:190-194) sometimes it is necessary to fight in order to bring the kind of persecution suffered by the Muslims to an end [2:217] Any more out of context crap you need debunked
@utrapzab You NEVER said or proved that these were untrue you said YOU WERE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT THEM AS TRUE. So your plan to expose Islam is to ignore EVERYTHING that doesn't agree with you and IGNORE refutations to your slander?
@helookslikefamousppl Qur'an (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them"
Quite an amusing video to watch.
sisterinthedeen 2 months ago
@utrapzab You said Saudi Arabia. I thought you meant the WHOLE COUNTRY. Not Makkah. Now of course I don't agree with Makkah being open to all people. It is a holy site so what business do non Muslims have there? By the way was Makkah in PRE Islamic times open to everyone or just worshippers?
>why would answering christianity be of relevence to me?
Because you and every other anti Islamist use the same arguments against Islam so it doesn't matter if it's Christians or atheists they answer
helookslikefamousppl 9 months ago
@helookslikefamousppl that has debunked nothing - you have clearly shown double standards therefore any credibility you wish to have had is negated, it has to be, we cannot trust your word.
utrapzab 9 months ago
@helookslikefamousppl why would answering christianity be of relevence to me?
utrapzab 9 months ago
@helookslikefamousppl so you dont agree with the apartheid operated by what the world views as the flagship muslim country where the most holy of muslims sites- mecca, is - soi can only gather from that that you have a double standard mind set because surely a holy site should be open to all people - if muslims want to be understood then surely access to their most holy site, as is afforded by the vatican for example, is a must, maybe people would see the light but alas no, apartheid continues
utrapzab 9 months ago
@utrapzab >no, you answer my question first, do you think operating aparthied in saudi arabia is acceptable, one Q at a time nice and easy
Nope.
>so you deny taqqiya,
Taqiyya is a practice in Shi'a Islam whereby adherents may conceal their faith when they are under threat, persecution, or compulsion. I found this on wikipedia and britannica online. Unless those are run by muslims who are 'lying to further the religion.'
helookslikefamousppl 9 months ago
@utrapzab >Qur'an (4:89)
So what about Quran 4:90? “If they leave you alone and offer to make peace with you, God does not allow you to harm them.”
After 5 years you no one told you this was OUT OF CONTEXT? Also you said where is violence discouraged. "Warfare is an awesome evil" (2:217) Fight those who attack you (2:190-194) sometimes it is necessary to fight in order to bring the kind of persecution suffered by the Muslims to an end [2:217] Any more out of context crap you need debunked
helookslikefamousppl 9 months ago
@utrapzab You NEVER said or proved that these were untrue you said YOU WERE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT THEM AS TRUE. So your plan to expose Islam is to ignore EVERYTHING that doesn't agree with you and IGNORE refutations to your slander?
helookslikefamousppl 9 months ago
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helookslikefamousppl 9 months ago
@helookslikefamousppl Qur'an (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them"
utrapzab 9 months ago