Homosexual men in history part 1

1812 at Teplitz, he wrote three love letters to an "Immortal Beloved".

http://www.gay-art-history.org/gay-history/gay-customs/homosexual-traditions....
http://paganpressbooks.com/jpl/GAYLIED.HTM
http://www.fuguemasters.com/beethove.html


Beethoven gay lover was his nephew Karl
http://rictornorton.co.uk/intro.htm

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[WizardofTacoma]

I have to be a bastard because the village people were not listed in part one. To start with the village people were not around in the 1800s. Part one deals with older figures. You can only get so much information into 10 min. of film.

[graywolf2112]

This video is of the homosexual persuasion. Huh? Yeah?

[live4pce]

um there is a difference between pedophilia and homosexuality.

[CabriniGreene]

disgusting. I will never look at them the same way again

[Dogamus01]

I'm a historian who studies the history of gender and sexuality and this is the first I've heard that some of these people are gay.

[BigBishop1]

@MrAlen6e pacabel

[NateSeale15]

Sir Francis Bacon and Harvey Milk. Both politicians and both gay. If you are gay and you're last name is a breakfast item, be a politician.

[MrAlen6e]

Excuse me but what the name of these beautiful composition

[tuberobotto]

Cont...2) Does being gay provide the artistic or multi-facetious capability of any given person, or vice-versa? One must be careful to make an assumption here. Did Wilde's talent provide the avenue for his gayness, or was his gayness the catalytic force behind his being talented? I doubt the latter. The video should above all celebrate the talents these men had rather than parade them as being gay first and talented second, as in a freak show. This video is a disservice to their beloved memory.

[tuberobotto]

1) Granted that 90% of the people portrayed here were gay and contributed well to society, the question one needs to ask is, should people glory in that fact? Did these people, except Wilde, glory and bask in their gayness? Would they be happy that this vid flaunts their talents in the name of being gay? Were they more conscientiously gay than they were conscientiously talented and was being gay more of their preoccupation above all than their artistry? Cont...

[tuberobotto]

@xukailing Cont...2) As for Shakespeare, there was a debate as to the real author of the sonnets and poems, some even hinting at Chaucer or Morley. It was even asked if Shakespeare was a real person thus the question on the authorship of the works. As for Da Vinci, the Vatican which held onto a hypocritical stance against homosexuality or deviance would have kicked his ass out of the kingdom to faraway Asia minor and we would never have heard about him today.

[tuberobotto]

@xukailing I quite agree with you. Besides, the video also says that Wilde's biographer was criticised for injecting speculations in his accounts of Wilde. So why not the other personalities in the vid. I read somewhere Beethoven was actually the guardian of said Karl who was a troubled youth always getting into trouble and uncle Ludwig had to settle the courts all the time. Wouldn't have the youth outed his uncle if Ludwig made pedophiliac moves on him? Cont....