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GGcaptmandrake (27 minutes ago) Show Hide
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"why didn't the engines make the anomolis ""spark"" when they hit the building like the fuselage did???"


Hey FILLY: Try the fact, that all the static electricity [You so casually are referring to] was discharged by the fuselage at impact!
fillyferz (1 day ago) Show Hide
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why didn't the engines make the anomolis ""spark"" when they hit the building like the fulelage did???
nagasama75 (3 days ago) Show Hide
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and if THATS not enough for you to discard this paper as anything vaguely legitimate, we can go back to the MEK/Al topic, which after further study, has an even more obvious flaw than the first i posted.
surely thats enough, but you probably have some lame ass (but scientific sounding) "explanation" as to why the two elements, which you claim were not bound, appear in the EXACT same place, in the EXACT same density according to the XEDS maps included in the paper.
smitty121981 (3 days ago) Show Hide
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"Fig 10" and that's why the MEK results are so important! Because the aluminum moved through the silicon! How much silicon is in Fig 17, AFTER the MEK soak??? And if you like looking at the XRay maps look at Fig 15, from after the MEK soak, and you will see that the aluminum and silicon are no longer in the same place!!
"This is a significant result for it means that the aluminum and silicon are not bound chemically" pg. 18
nagasama75 (2 days ago) Show Hide
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lol...you and your MEK.
OK, they did one untreated test to see if Al was by itself, and fig 10 clearly shows it wasn't. so, they did another test to see if Al was by itself, this time treating it, (and failing to take into account what the treatment would actually do) and concluded that it WAS by itself.
Whenever you have TWO tests that say DIFFERENT things, you don't get to pick and choose which conclusion you would like to support, you do MORE TESTS.
fucking hatchet-job "science". *flush*
smitty121981 (2 days ago) Show Hide
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NO!! The second test clarifies the first!! That's how science works!! And I don't think you understand, the tests do NOT contradict each other! yes in Fig 10, the aluminum and silicon appear in the same area, but the MEK showed that the aluminum was in fact NOT bonded to the silicon because when the silicon swelled the aluminum moved through it!!

Fig 16 shows the silicon matrix with NO aluminum and Fig 17 shows an area where aluminum collected and there is only a TINY blip for silicon!!!
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"Focusing the electron beam on a region rich in silicon, located in Fig. (15e), we find silicon and oxygen and very little else (Fig. 16). Evidently the solvent has disrupted the matrix holding the various particles, allowing some migration and separation of the components. This is a significant result for it means that the aluminum and silicon are not bound chemically." pg 18
nagasama75 (3 days ago) Show Hide
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*The aluminum in the red/gray chips was NOT chemically bound to the silicon*

then why, in Fig 10 of the paper (i know you loves those Figs lol), does the purple frame (c) showing the locational appearance of Al have the exact (to my eyes) same color density as the blue green frame showing the location of Si (e)?
a pretty strange coincidence, huh? that those two elements would appear to be in perfect correlation with each other. you know, kinda like kaolinite.
heh heh.
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the source i gave you is also pure kaolin, not kalonite.
which eh, doesnt have the SIGNIFICANT amount of GOLD. lol. but everything else closely corresponds.
dude, how can you sit and deny that testing the chips in an inert atmosphere would have 100% COMPLETELY proven the presence of thermitic material?
because that is EXACTLY what it would have done.
you are a fencepost. !
smitty121981 (4 days ago) Show Hide
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NO! that wouldn't help! There's other reactions that also don't need air! To see what CHEMICAL reaction is taking place, you can to look at the elements present before and after! A thermite chemical reaction is:

Fe2O3 + 2Al -> Al2O3 + 2Fe + heat

this is a reduction oxidation reaction, in which the iron oxide is reduced to iron. The heat that is released melts the iron. Iron (not iron oxide) spheres were found AFTER ignition, which PROVES this reaction took place!!

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