Kalam Cosmological Argument - Part 1 - William Lane Craig
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Exactly well said
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@thispoorguy I've read his book. He breaks it down by showing God exists, and THEN he posits the validity of assuming the Christian God is philosophically and morally THE God. He doesn't just assume that it's the Christian God, that is just your interpretation of these videos, which obviously don't accurately reflect his entire argument.
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Thank you for posting these.
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For the term 'beginning' Premise 1 is referring to creation from something that was already in existence or, put differently, a rearrangement in form. Premise 2 and the conclusion are referring to creation from nothing. Therefore a deduction cannot be made!
Until Craig provides evidence to support the statement 'whatever begins to exist FROM NOTHING has a cause' then the argument inevitably breaks down.
I agree, it seems worse than magic to assume something can really come from an absolute absence of anything without cause, but what was that bit about subatomic particles coming into existence without cause? If that is true and an exact example of something from nothing without cause then wouldnt premise 1 crumble, followed by the rest of the argument opening up to other possibilities of origin?
I've had Atheists say this to me as well and i was never really sure how to respond to that
Intellectual4God 3 months ago
@Intellectual4God Tell them that they'd get a failing grade in physics. Subatomic particles DO NOT COME INTO EXISTENCE OUT OF NOTHING. The Quantum Vacuum is not nothing. It's a sea of energy. If they think energy is nothing, they're crazy. More here: watch?v=Clr8uL3M7Ow
drcraigvideos 3 months ago
I don't have a problem with the cosmological argument, but this guy just assumes that if he can prove God, that it's the Christian god. What arrogance.
thispoorguy 3 months ago
@thispoorguy *SIGH* Please, stopy lying: watch?v=G1IWoIw6fUU
drcraigvideos 3 months ago
physical matter cannot be created, everything that physically exists is made out of matter and cannot be created, it always existed. its time and space that is new. Our universe is a bubble of nothingness floating through a white dense sea of matter.
danielgraem666 7 months ago
@danielgraem666 Please get the first law of thermodynamics right: watch?v=hf90iRas-Xk
drcraigvideos 7 months ago