@perp1exed Nah just racism, it is a strong term and if used incorrectly for the title of this video. The false accusation of being racist is much worse than the video itself. Which is insensitive at most.
@jobhopper1: You seem to be pretty fond of logical fallacies...
Again, I never said that these people are racists! At this point I'm not even sure that this subject is even worth discussing with you. You are not consistent in your reasoning.
It seems you are only here to refute any claims of racism or discrimination.
@perp1exed No its not discrimination 'the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex:' (Oxford dictionary online). They are not treated any different. They are also not treated different because of skin colour but because they are from developing countries. So its clearly not racism.
@jobhopper1: You argued before that the video wasn't trying to convince people that black or poor people in the third world are lazy. Any dutch person knows that this is a common stereotype assigned to blacks in Holland. Its a stereotype that implies that blacks are lazier than other ethnicities because they are black. It is mostly used in a humorous way, and not meant as a pejorative but it is still discriminative.
@jobhopper1: Clearly your concept of racism is more liberal than mine.
Blacks are more conservative on this issue because stereotypes ("racial assumptions") were historically used to justify slavery and apartheid laws.
The Oxford Dictionary you quoted earlier defines racism as:
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
@perp1exed stereotypes are only racist if they place one race under another. Which isn't happening here. This is Very important as this is the difference between a joke or racism. Calling it innocent racism therefore is wrong as it suggests the one is better than the other.
@jobhopper1: You are distorting my argument by using a straw man fallacy. I understand that you feel compelled to refute what I call "innocent racism", but you fail to understand the argument. The following example uses your own words...
You said: "this video are not trying to convince you that black people or poor people in third world countries are lazy or anything"
My argument is that assigning stereotypes to any racial group is racist.
Nice!
Rutger + 10 :)
ZeelandCentraal 1 week ago
kanaken raus.
sanyopro700 1 week ago
lol what IDIOT made the subs. he says little negroes and you make in ni..ers. fuck you racist subtitle maker.
gizzleyy 1 week ago
@perp1exed Nah just racism, it is a strong term and if used incorrectly for the title of this video. The false accusation of being racist is much worse than the video itself. Which is insensitive at most.
jobhopper1 1 week ago
@jobhopper1: You seem to be pretty fond of logical fallacies...
Again, I never said that these people are racists! At this point I'm not even sure that this subject is even worth discussing with you. You are not consistent in your reasoning.
It seems you are only here to refute any claims of racism or discrimination.
perp1exed 1 week ago
@perp1exed No its not discrimination 'the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex:' (Oxford dictionary online). They are not treated any different. They are also not treated different because of skin colour but because they are from developing countries. So its clearly not racism.
jobhopper1 1 week ago
@jobhopper1: You argued before that the video wasn't trying to convince people that black or poor people in the third world are lazy. Any dutch person knows that this is a common stereotype assigned to blacks in Holland. Its a stereotype that implies that blacks are lazier than other ethnicities because they are black. It is mostly used in a humorous way, and not meant as a pejorative but it is still discriminative.
Discrimination based on race = racism.
perp1exed 1 week ago
@jobhopper1: Clearly your concept of racism is more liberal than mine.
Blacks are more conservative on this issue because stereotypes ("racial assumptions") were historically used to justify slavery and apartheid laws.
The Oxford Dictionary you quoted earlier defines racism as:
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
perp1exed 1 week ago
@perp1exed stereotypes are only racist if they place one race under another. Which isn't happening here. This is Very important as this is the difference between a joke or racism. Calling it innocent racism therefore is wrong as it suggests the one is better than the other.
jobhopper1 1 week ago
@jobhopper1: You are distorting my argument by using a straw man fallacy. I understand that you feel compelled to refute what I call "innocent racism", but you fail to understand the argument. The following example uses your own words...
You said: "this video are not trying to convince you that black people or poor people in third world countries are lazy or anything"
My argument is that assigning stereotypes to any racial group is racist.
Its "innocent", when not meant as prejudicial.
perp1exed 1 week ago