Messianic Jewish Perspectives (Hebrews 4)

A Messianic Jewish view of the Messiah, Yeshua (Jesus) from the boof of Hebrews.

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[ravrudy]

Yes, I did. Thanks, Adam

[tngoatee]

rsm2101:

Your biggest problem is that you are using "your own understanding", (Proverbs 3:5-7). As a result, your assumptions and presuppositions that you insert into the Jewish Tanakh - about the G-d of Israel - are completely foreign [pagan] to Judaism.

Bottom Line: G-d is NOT a man, nor is He a son of man. See Numbers 23:19, 1 Kings 19:11-13, and 1 Samuel 15:29.

* Of course, you will insist that your [pagan] Xtn interpolations are correct, and that Torah Jews are wrong in this regard.

[rsm2101]

my belief is that the Jehovah God of the Old Testament (the Torah) is Jesus Christ. Jesus is not the second person of a trinity but is the ONE true God of the Torah I base this on the Shema for me Deuteronomy 6:4 The Lord our God is one Lord, but Jehovah is a spirit. A spirit has no flesh nor blood and without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin so Jehovah wrapped himself in flesh made "under the law". I died on a cross Jehovah has become my salvation Jesus is God and man

[paxton247]

the real jews are black jeremiah14:2 juda mourneth and the gates thereof languish they are black unto ground. revelations 13:9-10 if any man have an ear let him hear. he that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity he that kills with the sword shall be killed by the sword. you so called white ppl are fucked lol revlations2:9 i know thy works and tribulations and poverty but thou art rich and i know the blasphemy of them which say they are jews and are not but are the synagoge of satan.

[paxton247]

the real jews are black jeremiah14:2 juda mourneth and the gates thereof languish they are black unto ground. revelations 13:9-10 if any man have an ear let him hear. he that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity he that kills with the sword shall be killed by the sword. you so called white ppl are fucked lol revlations2:9 i know thy works and tribulations and poverty but thou art rich and i know the blasphemy of them which say they are jews and are not but are the synagoge of satan.

[knightsofstjoan2004]

(continued)Read Isaiah 7:14 and Isaiah 9:6, it speaks about the birth of the Messiah, the Messiah will be born of a young woman who is a virgin, her pregnancy wasn't through sexual intercourse but divine intervention. Immanuel from Isaiah 7:14 means "God with us", God came to earth from heaven and manifested and incarnated in the flesh in the person of Yeshua the Messiah. After all, he's God so he can do anything.

[knightsofstjoan2004]

ravrudy=It is insane, rediculous and hypocritical if you say that God can't do anything even though if God can do anything. Take a deeper look, God has revealed and appeared in human form a number of times in the Tanakh (Genesis 3:8, Genesis 18:1-14, Genesis 32:24-30, Exodus 24:9-11, Joshua 5:13-15, Proverbs 30:4).

[knightsofstjoan2004]

tngoatee=Read Daniel 9:24-27, it speaks about the appointed time of the Messiah. He hade to come, be crucified and resurrect on the third day before the destruction of the Second Temple. In 70 A.D. many yeras after Yeshua was crucified, resurrected and ascended, the Roman Army under General Titus smashed Jerusalem and destroyed the Second Temple in fulfillment of that prophecy. You have a choice, either Yeshua (JESUS) is the Messiah or there is none.

[tngoatee]

Rudy, you are being evasive; less than honest. You teach that Jesus - who you also call "Yeshua" - is the Creator (Elohim) [Sic]. You state [Hebrews 3 (08:22-09:40] that "Only G-d creates", then allude that "the son" (aka: Jesus) is G-d. And that is BLASPHEMY, from a Judaic perspective!

[ravrudy]

You are right, G-d is not a man, this good that you think so.