J.S.Bach - 'Dorian' Toccata & Fugue (1 of 2) by Chorzempa

Stereo HQ: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=yAdTLZ1M6FI&fmt=18

Dorian toccata, performed by Daniël Chorzempa, on the beautiful, historic organ at the 'Bovenkerk' church, at Kampen, The Netherlands. This was a mid 80s recording.

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• dorian
• bach
• bovenkerk
• chorzempa

[doctortabby]

Ah, I like this tempo so much better. So often this piece is simply played too fast and so much is lost! Thank you for posting.

[killedbyshadows]

As Goethe said, Bach makes one feel as if they were at the very creation of the world.

[Offshoreorganbuilder]

Sublime. Thanks.

[mrcmrc1000]

"Nicht Bach, sondern Meer sollte er heißen..."

[Not Bach (stream) but Meer (sea) should be his name...]

(Beethoven)

[robertgift]

@ccoraxfan Difficult for me because I do not detach them. I connecthem as though played with two hands.

I have difficulty ending the fugue's pedal trill correctly.

Helmut Walcha acomplishes it perfectly.

[ccoraxfan]

@robertgift Indeed, I played the 6ths with my left hand. It is a bit difficult, but I've done similar things in other pieces I've learned. If you don't play it too fast and if you play detached notes, it's not that hard. Pedal trills are not hard either.

[robertgift]

@ccoraxfan Bravo! It is worth theffort and difficulty of playing the 6ths withe left hand and continuing the trill withe right. 5:16 is also very difficult.

Th.is a wonderful piece to play. People like it better than the fugue. But I like the fugue better.

It has a one-measure-long trill in the pedal. Someven cheat and don't play it for full value. But it is wonderful if notrilled too fast and if ended perfectly.

[ccoraxfan]

@robertgift I just downloaded the sheet music to this, specifically to see if I could play that part with the (in)famous trill at 1:41, continuing to the end of the note as you hear here. And indeed, I can. Perhaps one of these days I'll have to learn this piece.

[robertgift]

@ccoraxfan Did not know thathey had pedal reed though some no manual reed. How unfortunate.

Wow. At 1:41 just noticed that he continues the trill for the fullength of the note! Wonderful. Thought I was the only one who does that..

Forgefire, the notes are in the Dorian mode, which can be in any key. Most simply played on white notes from D to d. We are acustomed to note number four being a half-step above number three and note number eight a half-step above number seven.

[ccoraxfan]

@robertgift

Funny, a lot of organs in Bach's day had a 16' pedal reed but no reeds in the manuals. One I can think of is the Silbermann organ in Reinhardtsgrimma, examples of which can be found on YouTube. The pedal reed makes the pedal sound prompt and distinct, which matches the bright sound of the famous Silbermann diapason chorus. There's no lack of balance that I can tell. This performance is similar.

[Forgefire5]

Arrggghhh! The key sig does always describe the key of the piece! Who named it Dorian?!

[Casavantorgan]

@secamaro1 Johann Gotfried Walther in his musical lexicon describes a Bach recital where he used the 16 faggot as part of the ensemble, not solo work. I often do this when I want a heavier sound. Large pedal reeds of the time were not equipped with the pneumatic starters of modern practice and many would have resopnded too slowly for Bach. Also these pipes could also linger a little while after the pedal had been released.