CES 2007 Taser International

Here's a video from CES where Taser is debuting their latest C2 model self defense device.

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• Taser
• CES
• Blogtronix
• C2
• self
• defense

[AspiringPotato]

I have a question? Can't rapist and muggers also use tasers?

[coachola]

@AspiringPotato Yes, along with guns, knives, and whatever else they need to. A weapon is a tool which can be used either to harm or to protect.

[FotisMylonas]

Im really sorry i was only rhetoric, lets also be dramatic, lets play the scene you are describing:

One day Society told coachola: "Oh please choachola, i know i did wrong, im gonna fix it now, but can you please help me meanwhile?" And so the superman-spiderman-batman-iron man-cow boy choachola, responded to the call of society and developed the taser. Meanwhile, some society members, expressed their concerns, but coachola shoot them all down: just "rhetoric points" and unreal critism he said.

[coachola]

I'm not even sure what your argument is. I don't think that anybody disagrees that violence is bad and improved living standards are good. However, social progress takes LOTS of time and is undefined in terms of what needs to be achieved. Even with this, violence will always exist. I think we need to have a strong police/military WHILE trying to make progress. Your points involve nothing but rhetoric, and your criticism of TASERs does not reflect reality either in the US or anywhere else.

[FotisMylonas]

finding a way for being violent without killing the victim, is not social progress, only technical. it is cheaper and simple for societies to develop tasers than developing solutions, paying some people do the dirty job using the big social "achievment": tasers. this wont prevent attacks, it will only give you a chance of defending yourself. belive it or not, i feel safer finding ways of preventing attacks,otherwise they will always happen and you may not have the chance to even use it

[coachola]

Yes, I agree that violence is terrible, and it's our responsibility to address the root causes of it. However, in terms of security we need to react to the world as it is, not how we think it should be. Hope for a different place does not eliminate very real threats against you now. Everyone isn't as reasonable as you. They won't take your generosity as an act of kindness, but as a showing of weakness, which they will exploit. We need to have a gun in one hand and an aid packet in the other.

[FotisMylonas]

yes you are right, when you talk about the absolute, you are talking about utopias.

only im not talking about the absolute, im just talking about eleminating as much as possible from all the causes and the reasons that create problems that need to be solved by tasers.

if i find a medicine that would stop the cancer cells from multiplying, it doesnt mean i dealt with the things that actually create cancer in the first place

[coachola]

Yes, but my point is that your expectations that weapons will eventually be unneeded is unrealistic. Society is a very thin fabric which can easily be broken. Look at the chaos during Hurricane Katrina, or third world countries where there's not enough to eat. The only way there can be pure peace is when everyone has enough of everything, which is by definition a utopia. Economic interdependence works too, where fighting is bad for business. Even then people will still try to take what's yours.

[FotisMylonas]

i didnt say govrment, because this leaves all the people out of the picture, as if the goverment would magically solve the problems by laws or anything and we would sit in our sofas doing nothing at all, staying the same.

instead, i said socities, which brings you, me the goverment neighborhoud countries and anyone else inside the picture.

it is only then, that not using any kind of weapons, or armour, will become common sense, not utopia.

but we have to accept foundamental changes for it.

[coachola]

So to summarize your argument, it's as if a government has two possible bills to sign: one where we buy lots of guns and create fear, or another where we create a complete violenceless utopia. Unfortunately, this isn't the case. Weapons are a response to conflict, which is a response to scarcity. There isn't enough to go around, so people fight for it (which is obviously an over-simplification). The TASER is designed to SAVE lives. It's use shows a societal progression, not the opposite.