March through Main Street Plaza at Kiss-In, Salt Lake City

Recorded on July 12, 2009 using a Flip Video camcorder. Kiss-In rally in support of two gay men handcuffed and cited for kissing on LDS Temple grounds. After the kissing, participants march through temple grounds in civil disobedience, and security calls the police.

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• FlipShare Kiss-In
• LDS Temple
• Salt Lake City
• Utah
• marriage rights
• gay rights
• civil disobedience

[getstakerized]

It would be interesting to look at how the church gets its money, some of which I would term 'spiritual extortion,' but that's another subject.

The completely peaceable assembly didn't include any angry epithets, seemed to serve pretty well to point out the hypocrisy in Church policy of NO public display of affection, and also the out of hand security handcuffing and throwing someone to the ground--for the act of kissing?!! Give me a break!!

[dortmundpls]

I believe it's not allowed for anyone to display acts of affection there, including straights. If this is not true, please reply and let me know.

[getstakerized]

Sure, technically no public display of affection, but go there any day & see how many male/female couples are holding hands/kissing. Hell, they take wedding photos kissing outside the temple!

[snowzknight]

That's nice... more bullshit from useless sheep. I love how it's always some long haired moron who starts it.

It's a fucking church, at what point did you think they were going to accept it? Wrong or not, it's their views and their property... Remember like not even 100 years ago when your parents were against it? But now I think the bigger problem is the whole "PC or go home"... I'm not PC in the slightest but people are so socially scared to be otherwise it's pathetic. Get your own opinions.

[Twarrior4]

Hey it's great that other people are contributing, especially institutions that have a lot of money. It's not really a competition though. However the LDS church has a huge welfare program set up to take care of its members, that probably wasn't included in the stats. But does benefit the Government by no small amount. The church also does things world-wide where ever the help is needed suchas Africa, Tsunami Victims, Earthquake victims, etc... I think it's awesome that everyone is helping

[bbennett39]

billybob, remember that the group i am talking about is the Knights of Columbus...i posted the stats you wanted. But keep in mind, that the Knights of Columbus are Irish Catholic Americans, which makes up a very low percent....a fifth of the Mormon members...so explain it all to me with that in mind.

[bbennett39]

Catholics has remained steady at about 25 percent for over 50 years, 67,515,016 registered members. There are 12,868,606 worldwide mormon members, 5,779,321 of those living in the United States. Keep in mind i was talking about the knights of columbus...they only have an estimated 1.7 million members. Thats a huge difference...and that group alone gives more than the mormons. did i leave anything out? Did i post my figures well enough for you?

[Unklebillybob]

I really love how amateurs throw statistics around.

OK bb - He're are a few statistical questions for you:

1) What is the Catholic Membership number, in the United States?

2) What is the Mormon Membership number, in the United States?

3) What is the difference between the two?

Now, if you're too embarassed to post the correct figures, I'll be happy to do it for you.

[bbennett39]

billy, i dont think you understand, i simply dont care about this topic anymore...it is old news and whats done is done. Nothing is going to change now. I have my opinion and you have yours. You have no idea how much information in know or dont know about this topic. I simply just dont care to discuss with you. You tried proving your point. I hope you feel like your accomplished now. Good Job.

[Unklebillybob]

You need to accomplish better research. The LDS Church purchased this property, Period. The benches these visitors were sitting, the plants, the trees the walkways, are all owned by the LDS Church.

Therefore, when asked to leave, and they refused, they were then trespassing.

If you want to know why they weren't charged with anything, ask the LDS Church.

[bbennett39]

I saw a study last night i thought you may be interested in. The Catholic church's Knights of Columbus contribute more to the country than other any religion combined. The mormon church only donates a third of what the catholics do. We talked about it before. I thought i wold share it with you T

[bbennett39]

Did you know the church doesnt even own that one part of property? It is basically like they are paying rent there. They own everything around the plaza, but they dont actually own the plaza walkway. But since they pay rent, they are allowed to make rules. Which these people didnt break any of. There are no signs posted saying no kissing your loved one. There is not a sign saying "gay people not allowed." So which law are they breaking? Why didnt they get charged with anything?

[bbennett39]

I dont think you understand where i am going with this. I do know the law. I understand they COULD have been charged. But the problem was, they were discriminating against these people. That to is against the law. Did you watch the video of these men? They were sitting on a bench together when they were approached. They were approached because they were gay. A bar could get sued if they kicked people out because they were gay. Learn that law douche bag. The church was in the wrong