Evolution Intelligent Design debate Meyer V Ward 10of11

Peter Ward paleontologist and University of Washington Professor of Geology, Biology, Zoology and Astrobiology.

Stephen C Meyer is a senior fellow at the discovery institute and co-wrote the note to teachers at the end of the book "Of pandas and people" which was central to the Kitzmiller V Dover trial which concluded that Intelligent Design is not science. Along with fellow Discovery institute fellows John Angus Campbell and William Demski pulled out of the Dover trial after depositions from the plaintiff experts were taken and thus would not defend the Intelligent Design claims of the Discovery Institute under oath at this trial. The Discovery Institute also boasts among it's fellows "Moonie" Jonathan Wells (The moonies believe that Jesus Christ failed in his salvation plan and that Rev Moon from Korea is the second coming of Christ)

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[alsananick]

Full title of Darwin's book: ''The Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection The Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life''

The question you have to ask yourself if you are a Darwinist  is ''Am I Racist?''

[djarm67]

No. The question is, was he using the word "race" in the nineteenth century as we use it today? If you read the book, you will clearly see that it is not used in the same context.

[alsananick]

ok. you tell me please.what does he mean by favored race?

[djarm67]

The context of how Darwin used the word "race" is how we would use the word "variety". It denotes variations in a population that could be selected upon such as shorter legs, faster, thicker coat, bigger claws etc. Race is not as used in the context of human "races". The Origin of Species rarely even refers to humans at all.

[tchristian04]

Ward is showing his desperation with his continual childish distractions/interruptions and shout-outs to his buddies to help him gang up on Meyer

[lunabirdie]

Ward got fucking Hammered !!!!!!!!

[kjrock2]

@alsananick Hitler derived much of his thinking on Darwinism. I like to call Darwinists, "Hitlers."

Well not really, but the comparison in ideologies is very similar

[tally2312]

Peter, you should know of good bar, it appears you were at at one before this debate...geeez brother lay off the cough syrup.

[IllegalAmigo07]

We all know that as an actual scientific tool, it is completely useless

[IllegalAmigo07]

Ward was acting a bit childish at the end. But wake me up when intelligent design predicts anything of substance and value. Which flu strains will strike the US in the next flu season? Can intelligent design predict that at all? Nope. It's not falsifiable, it's constructed entirely from the ground up to cast the slightest sliver of doubt on evolution. Even if we were to concede that intelligent design was the true "theory", which it will never be. Where do we go from there?

[Seigu007]

Atheists are weak. Very weak indeed.

[philackey]

Ward got pwned! its 2011 still no life.

[M131669]

Ward was clearly intimidated. Meyer too brainy. 

[Voltar143]

Dr. Ward is such a douche,what an embarrassing debate for him

[pandorachild]

@tchristian04 you would do the same if you where debating a Bigfoot believer.

[mgundy]

Peter Ward simply comes off as intellectually dishonest in all of this. He just does his peers a great disservice by his behavior.