In this brief segment, Gothard claims that most mental illness, including schizophrenia, is the result of "irresponsibility." Gothard attributes this theory to an unnamed "Jewish psychiatrist." (Best guess is that this footage from the early 1990s.)
@Paula120906 Oh yes ATI is quite bad, but the kids are learning math and how to read. :P That's all I meant. Although what knowledge of history and science they will receive will be skewed.
You are right, parents cannot teach all subjects (not even college educated ones), which is why they have DVD and textbook teachers to do it for them. It's similar to distance learning. :)
@MissJemimaPuddleduck I won't compare your homeschooling experience to the Duggar's because if your parents were college educated, that is more education than Michelle has. Most parents can't teach all subjects and when you have 19 children, the kids simply aren't going to get a good education.Many believe (including myself) that ATI is a cult-based curriculum. Gothard is (by most standards) a cultish guy. I'd question the materials. I'm glad your exp worked though.
@mimmar3891 This is very extreme. :P My mother gave birth to me in her home with the assistance of a midwife. I have a birth certificate. And I was home schooled, which was a good experience for me. It is for many people. And there are lots of people for whom a public school experience is every bit as bad as the extremist home schooler's. In my ideal world, the work "illegal" wouldn't exist. People would watch out for each other, and abuse wouldn't happen.
@Paula120906 And in addition, home school parents usually use something like Khan Academy, the state curriculum, or a combination of various courses on DVD and in textbooks. It really can work very well, because they can create a curriculum that works for their child's individual learning style. The parent doesn't need to be actively involved in teaching, so much as guiding the student in which courses to take, and making sure he or she is doing the work, etc.
@Paula120906 I was homeschooled by Christian parents (both of whom are college educated). One of my best friends is Muslim, the other's an Atheist. There are many responsible parents who do a better job of educating their children than the average public school would. Check out John Taylor Gatto's books for some reasons public schools aren't that awesome. :P But as far as Michelle Duggar goes, her kids are learning the basics. They use ATI's curriculum.
There's more scientific backing to mental illness than there is to a God, yet he believes in God and not mental illness? I think he's just full of shit and he knows it!
@Paula120906 I think wee both see the problems with the discusting view that mental illness is always related to sinful behavior. Sometimes our kidneys go bad and we get kindey failure and a buildup of toxins and other problems. Sometimes our knees go bad and we cant walk and are in pain. Sometimes our brains malfunction and we cant function well neurologically. In each case the person needs compassion and medical help, not condemnation.
@Paula120906 Oh yes ATI is quite bad, but the kids are learning math and how to read. :P That's all I meant. Although what knowledge of history and science they will receive will be skewed.
You are right, parents cannot teach all subjects (not even college educated ones), which is why they have DVD and textbook teachers to do it for them. It's similar to distance learning. :)
MissJemimaPuddleduck 1 day ago
@MissJemimaPuddleduck I won't compare your homeschooling experience to the Duggar's because if your parents were college educated, that is more education than Michelle has. Most parents can't teach all subjects and when you have 19 children, the kids simply aren't going to get a good education.Many believe (including myself) that ATI is a cult-based curriculum. Gothard is (by most standards) a cultish guy. I'd question the materials. I'm glad your exp worked though.
Paula120906 1 day ago
@mimmar3891 This is very extreme. :P My mother gave birth to me in her home with the assistance of a midwife. I have a birth certificate. And I was home schooled, which was a good experience for me. It is for many people. And there are lots of people for whom a public school experience is every bit as bad as the extremist home schooler's. In my ideal world, the work "illegal" wouldn't exist. People would watch out for each other, and abuse wouldn't happen.
MissJemimaPuddleduck 1 day ago
@Paula120906 And in addition, home school parents usually use something like Khan Academy, the state curriculum, or a combination of various courses on DVD and in textbooks. It really can work very well, because they can create a curriculum that works for their child's individual learning style. The parent doesn't need to be actively involved in teaching, so much as guiding the student in which courses to take, and making sure he or she is doing the work, etc.
MissJemimaPuddleduck 1 day ago
@Paula120906 I was homeschooled by Christian parents (both of whom are college educated). One of my best friends is Muslim, the other's an Atheist. There are many responsible parents who do a better job of educating their children than the average public school would. Check out John Taylor Gatto's books for some reasons public schools aren't that awesome. :P But as far as Michelle Duggar goes, her kids are learning the basics. They use ATI's curriculum.
MissJemimaPuddleduck 1 day ago
Hahahaha. XD I can't even. This is like as good as the people who say mental illness is caused by evil spirits.
MissJemimaPuddleduck 1 day ago
Just proves that John is an idiot. He has been a round last 30 or 40 year miss quoting the Bible. Its a real cult .
TheSolarmechanic 3 weeks ago
I wonder if Gothards son was mentally ill when he seduced six or seven of Gothards staff members over several months?
prairiemark 3 weeks ago
There's more scientific backing to mental illness than there is to a God, yet he believes in God and not mental illness? I think he's just full of shit and he knows it!
nafets1218 1 month ago
@Paula120906 I think wee both see the problems with the discusting view that mental illness is always related to sinful behavior. Sometimes our kidneys go bad and we get kindey failure and a buildup of toxins and other problems. Sometimes our knees go bad and we cant walk and are in pain. Sometimes our brains malfunction and we cant function well neurologically. In each case the person needs compassion and medical help, not condemnation.
prairiemark 2 months ago